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RE: [xmca] varying definitions of perezhivanie
Mike,
perezhivaniye, in my interpretation of Vygotsky, is the ability, when being
in the moments of crisis, to step away from the immediate experience: "In
order to explain and understand experience, it is necessary to go beyond its
limits; it is necessary to forget about it for a minute and move away from
it" (Vygotsky, 1999, p. 243). Feeling good is the ideal result for an
individual who is able to step away from his immediate struggle with social
demands, reflect on his/her past experience, and contemplate (extrapolate)
his/her future experiences.
Michael
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From: mike cole [mailto:lchcmike@gmail.com]
Sent: October-01-11 4:16 PM
To: Michael Levykh
Cc: eXtended Mind, Culture, Activity
Subject: Re: [xmca] varying definitions of perezhivanie
OK, everyone is far away from being an expert.
But........
How do you respond to the notion of "Self-regulated psychological system of
personality" as a synonym for perezhivanie and the discussion of similar
terms
in German and Spanish?
I find it interesting that Vasiliuk argues that perezhivanie is a special
kind of experience of "activity on oneself" in moments of crisis. The whole
idea of "individual activity" is a constant source of confusion for me, but
confronted with an example of a person's mate dying as the medium for
discussion of perezhivanie makes me stop and think.
mike
On Sat, Oct 1, 2011 at 4:04 PM, Michael Levykh <mlevykh@shaw.ca> wrote:
Thank you, Mike. But I am far from being an expert. As for the discussion, I
have been only passively following on and off this one.
Michael
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From: mike cole [mailto:lchcmike@gmail.com]
Sent: October-01-11 3:57 PM
To: Michael Levykh
Cc: eXtended Mind, Culture, Activity
Subject: Re: [xmca] varying definitions of perezhivanie
Good to have an expert involved, Michael.
What is your interpretation of the recent discussion of this issue?
mike
On Sat, Oct 1, 2011 at 3:27 PM, Michael Levykh <mlevykh@shaw.ca> wrote:
I hope the following paragraph from my 2008 PhD Theses might shed a bit more
light on your discussion:
Vasilyuk (1984) writes in his annotation to Psikhologia Perezhivaniya
(Psychology of Perezhivaniye), that in order to manage (perezhits)
"situations of stress, frustration, inner conflict, and life crisis, quite
often a painful inner work has to be done in re-establishing inner
equilibrium and reconstructing a new meaningful life" (para. 1, my
translation). For him, even a painful experience in the past can be
recreated as a positive, pleasurable, meaningful future-oriented experience
of personality. Hence, perezhivaniye is a future-oriented, conscious, and
individual emotional experience of past events achieved in the
"here-and-now" through reflection on the individual's struggle within
himself/herself (e.g., as if struggling between the dual consciousness of
self and the character he/she portrays) and with the social environment
(e.g., his/her audience). Although perezhivaniye connotes mostly negative
(painful) experience of the past, its future-orientedness provides
possibilities for positive outcomes. Such positive possibilities are also
reflected in Vygotsky's optimistic views on cultural development in general.
Michael Levykh
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From: xmca-bounces@weber.ucsd.edu [mailto:xmca-bounces@weber.ucsd.edu] On
Behalf Of mike cole
Sent: October-01-11 2:53 PM
To: eXtended Mind, Culture,Activity
Subject: [xmca] varying definitions of perezhivanie
Below are two snippets from Vasiliuk's book which have informed my,
still forming, understanding (s) of perezhivanie as used by Russians.
Its from Vasiliuk's book, The psych of experiencing. There is a ton to the
book of interest but
these citations bring out a feature of perezhivanie that is not evident in
"lived through experience"
nor even in "a mixture of emotion and cognition" versions.
This book is written within a dialogue with activity theory. perezhivanie is
translated as experiencing.
mike
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But in this real world, in life, situations exist where the main problem
cannot be solved either by practical activity, even the best-equipped, or by
the most highly accurate reflection of that problem in the mind. If a person
is threatened by danger he can try to save himself by running away, but as
R. Peters writes, "if a man is overcome by grief because his wife is dead,
what can be done of a specific sort to remedy *that *situation?"
. when we speak of "generating meaning" what we have in mind is a
special *activity
on the part of the individual*. 7
The specifics of this activity are determined by the peculiarities of the
situations which put the individual under the necessity of experiencing. We
shall refer to these as critical situations. If one had to use one word only
to define the nature of such situations one would have to say that they are
situations of impossibility. Impossibility of what? Impossibility of living,
of realising the internal necessities of life.
The struggle against that impossibility, the struggle to realise internal
necessities - that is experiencing. Experiencing is the repair of a
"disruption" of life, a work of restoration, proceed-ing as it were at right
angles to the line of actualisation of life.
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