Re: [xmca] Re: ye native speakers of English

[Andy Blunden <ablunden@mira.net>]

Oh I see, Monica! :) In the sense that I managed to skip formal training 
in any of the relevant disciplines, I too am somewhat of an immigrant in 
the world of academia, but I admit that living within the walls of 
academia, has had its effect on me. I'm a bit like one of those eminent 
citizens in the US who are in fact "illegals."

Andy

Monica Hansen wrote:
> Andy: 
>
> I'm so glad you didn't realize! I AM a native speaker of common American
> dialect of English that in my formative years had nothing to do with
> academia --I'm still trying to move beyond it ;). 
>
> In a developed discourse, or "tradition of scientific analysis", common
> words are often appropriated and nuanced in a way that may be different from
> use in another discourse community. When reading posts or any text, I roll
> along merrily thinking I understand what is being said-- unless there is a
> burr or sticking point, something that does not resonate. "Co-extensive" was
> one of these points for me, a little reminder that I cannot assume everyone
> uses words in the same way. To me, an opportunity for clarification and
> further education.
>
> Thanks so much for your help.
>
> Monica
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: xmca-bounces@weber.ucsd.edu [mailto:xmca-bounces@weber.ucsd.edu] On
> Behalf Of Andy Blunden
> Sent: Wednesday, July 06, 2011 7:30 PM
> To: eXtended Mind, Culture, Activity
> Subject: Re: [xmca] Re: ye
>
> Yes, that's exactly it, Monica. I didn't realise you weren't a native 
> speaker.
>
> Just a warning/qualification on what I have said. I am not claiming that 
> the concepts of Activity and Discourse ought to be identified; clearly 
> they indicate different traditions of scientific analysis which pick out 
> different objects from the flow of human life. I think I am suggesting 
> though that both sciences ought to expand their self-concept so as to 
> assimilate the gains of the other, creating a single, nuanced concept of 
> Discursive Activity. This of course has nothing to do with assimilating 
> practical actions with word meaning. But the distinction between 
> practical intelligence and verbal thinking/action is developmentally 
> overcome, ontologically, but also historically, I think.
>
> Andy
>
> Monica Hansen wrote:
>   
> > Thanks, Andy. This does help. "Co" meaning the threads of activity and 
> > discourse can extend together, at the same time. Like co-chairs. I was 
> > following you! Thanks for the clarification. My misunderstanding was 
> > an example of how my discourse was not co-extending with yours. J I 
> > think I know English, but I am always learning new Discourses with a 
> > capital D.
> >
> > Monica
> >
> >     


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