Re: [xmca] nonverbal representations

[Robert Lake <boblake@georgiasouthern.edu>]

Dear Monica and Vera,
I was just about to suggest the very same chapter  and just finished looking
at it again a few minutes ago.
>From page 106....Notebooks of the Mind......

"The power of visual thinking is that it illuminates and makes manifest this
ability to conceptualize our experiences as structures in motion, as
reletionships". V.J. Steiner (1985).

Language, thought, speech, history (and activity of every kind) as
dynamic  motion  is central  to all of Vygotky's work.








On Fri, Apr 29, 2011 at 2:07 PM, Vera John-Steiner <vygotsky@unm.edu> wrote:

> Hi Monica,
>
> I agree with your interpretation. You may want to look at my Visual
> Thinking chapter in Notebooks of the Mind, and the last chapter where I try
> to integrate my ideas about cognitive pluralism ( a term I coined later)
> with Vygotskian theory. Peter's work on masks and literacy is another
> interesting line to follow as is Jay's theory.
> Vera John Steiner
> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Monica Hansen" <
> monica.hansen@vandals.uidaho.edu>
> To: "'eXtended Mind, Culture, Activity'" <xmca@weber.ucsd.edu>
> Sent: Friday, April 29, 2011 12:00 PM
> Subject: RE: [xmca] nonverbal representations
>
>
>  The section I am working on is a brief historical overview of the study of
>> mental imagery conceptions of nonverbal mental representations and their
>> role in literacy development. For example, here is one quote of Vygotky's
>> that is problematic for me.
>>
>> In Kozulin's translation of Thought and Language (1986): "We are therefore
>> forced to conclude that the fusion of though and speech, in adults as well
>> as in children, is a phenomenon limited to a circumscribed area. Nonverbal
>> thought and nonintellectual speech do not participate in this fusion and
>> are
>> affected only indirectly by the processes of verbal thought" (p. 89).
>>
>> Does anyone have another interpretation here? This is in Chapter 4 in The
>> Genetic Roots of Thought and Speech at the end of part III.
>>
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: xmca-bounces@weber.ucsd.edu [mailto:xmca-bounces@weber.ucsd.edu] On
>> Behalf Of Martin Packer
>> Sent: Thursday, April 28, 2011 8:26 PM
>> To: eXtended Mind, Culture, Activity
>> Subject: Re: [xmca] sense and sensibility
>>
>> What's your project, Monica?
>>
>> Martin
>>
>> On Apr 28, 2011, at 8:16 PM, Monica Hansen wrote:
>>
>>  Thank you so much! Definitely useful for my current project-a small part
>>>
>> of
>>
>>> my dissertation, which is turning out to be a lot about semiotics, who
>>>
>> knew?
>>
>>> I thought it was just about words and meaning.
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: xmca-bounces@weber.ucsd.edu [mailto:xmca-bounces@weber.ucsd.edu]
>>> On
>>> Behalf Of Martin Packer
>>> Sent: Thursday, April 28, 2011 5:22 PM
>>> To: eXtended Mind, Culture, Activity
>>> Subject: Re: [xmca] sense and sensibility
>>>
>>> This from Morris' dissertation: Symbolism and reality: a study in the
>>>
>> nature
>>
>>> of mind.
>>>
>>> "The essay will aim to show that thought and mind are not entities, nor
>>>
>> even
>>
>>> processes involving a psychical substance distinguishable from the rest
>>> of
>>> reality, but are explicable as the functioning of parts of the experience
>>>
>> of
>>
>>> an organism as symbols to that organism of other parts of experience.
>>>
>> Being
>>
>>> then the symbolic portion *of* experience, the psychical or mental can
>>> neither be sharply opposed to the rest of experience, nor identified with
>>> the whole of experience. And since experience will be shown to be a
>>>
>> portion
>>
>>> of reality, it follows that mind and reality can never be utterly
>>>
>> separated
>>
>>> nor indiscriminately identified" (3-4)
>>>
>>> On Apr 28, 2011, at 7:09 PM, Martin Packer wrote:
>>>
>>>  Monica,
>>>>
>>>> Charles W. Morris (May 23, 1901, Denver, Colorado - January 15, 1979,
>>>>
>>> Gainesville, Florida) was an American semiotician and philosopher. George
>>> Herbert Mead directed his doctoral dissertation on a symbolic theory of
>>> mind, completed in 1925. His students included semiotician Thomas A.
>>>
>> Sebeok.
>>
>>> For some years I've had his "Six Theories of Mind" (1932) on the shelf,
>>>
>> and
>>
>>> recently found time to read it. (It's available on the web.)
>>>
>>>>
>>>> Martin
>>>>
>>>>
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