Re: [xmca] Shared knowledge as Common Ground

[mike cole <lchcmike@gmail.com>]

How could we organize something that would push recognition of the
complementarities of these approaches to joint mediated activity, Sandro?
Maybe a conference? Seems like (almost) parallel
universes.

Just the opposite feeling comes from the thought that both you and Manny
passed through LCHC. And that David Sudnow passed through Irvine while I was
there. Enough to invoke heavy use of the idea of context as weaving
together! The feeling is quite the opposite of parallel worlds.

At what point do initially closely interwoven discourses become
differentiated to the point where they can appear as parallel discourses to
their constitutors?

Hmmmm.
mike

On Mon, Oct 25, 2010 at 5:57 PM, Alessandro Duranti <
aduranti@anthro.ucla.edu> wrote:

> Mike,
>   On something very close to the notion of Common Ground, see
> Elinor Ochs (Keenan) & B.B. Schieffelin's work on Topic as a discourse
> notion, and "Referent + Proposition" back in the mid-1970s (a bit lost in
> the literature probably because they were ahead of their time in using
> conversational data and child-adult interactions for discussing "topic" and
> "joint attention").
> Same papers also found in their book "Acquiring Conversational Competence".
>
> Best,
>  Sandro
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> On Oct 25, 2010, at 5:19 PM, mike cole wrote:
>
> Lucas-- I was able to grab the Herb Clark article. Concerned as it is with
> joint, mediated, activity and the material/ideal nature of mediation, it
> has to be close to my heart.
> If others are interested, i can send a pdf.
>
> The issue of "grounding" also comes up in wertsch's writings on the
> given/new distinction, i think when he
> discusses Rommetveit. Very worthwhile discussion and expansion as a topic.
>
> I would also note that the entire issue of Discourse Studies should be
> interesting people in this
> discussion, from the introduction of x-lchc-ite Sandro Duranti to the
> discussion around Manny Schegeloff's work (another x-lchc-ite from loooooong
> ago).
>
> Like old home week! thanks.
>
> mike
>
> On Fri, Oct 22, 2010 at 12:25 AM, Lucas Bietti <lucas@bietti.org> wrote:
>
>>
>> Just a quick clarification. H.Clark's book is titled 'Using Language'.
>> Interestingly, in the last years Clark and Nick Enfield have been using
>> the
>> concept of Common Ground in multimodal interactions incorporating material
>> environments.
>>
>>
>> Clark, H. (2005). Coordinating each other in a material world. Discourse
>> Studies7 (4-5), 507-525.
>> Enfield, N.J. (2006). Social consequences of common ground. In N.J.
>> Enfield &
>> S.C. Levinson (eds.), Roots of human sociality: Culture, cognition and
>> interaction(pp.399-430). Oxford: Berg.
>> Enfield, N.J. (2008). Common ground as a resource for social affiliation.
>> In
>> I.Kecskes & J.L. (eds), Intention, common ground and the egocentric
>> speaker-hearer(pp.223-254). Berlin: Mouton de Gruyter.
>> Enfield,N.J.(2009). The anatomy of meaning: Speech, gesture, and composite
>> utterances. Cambridge: Cambridge University Press.
>>
>>
>> Hope this helps
>> Lucas
>>
>>
>>
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>>
>> On October 21, 2010 at 10:32 PM Larry Purss <lpscholar2@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> > I just read an interesting article on shared knowledge acquisition
>> > and shared perception that develops as doctors participate in  joint
>> > activity within the operating room.
>> > When reading it I was thinking of Jay Lemke's article on how changing
>> > media facilitate different forms of shared knowlege.
>> >
>> > The article is an examination of communicative activity in an operating
>> room
>> > where there is an attendant, a resident, and a third year medical
>> student
>> > and how they are developing shared perceptions and shared knowledge
>> within
>> > a particular situation.  The authors are usin a pragmatic model of
>> > "reference repair" proposed by  Clark and Marshall [1981]
>> >
>> > Clark's model in 1981 was referring to "mutual knowledge" but in 1996 in
>> a
>> > book titled "Using Knowledge" he expanded the notion of mutual knowledge
>> to
>> > a broader category of "common ground"
>> >
>> > Clark's proposed model of reference repair is expressed by the formula
>> > Evidence + Asumptions + Induction schema = Mutual knowledge [or common
>> > ground]
>> > g
>> > Evidence is the ground that both speaker and hearer both understand some
>> > matter in the same way.
>> >
>> > Assumptions are the things taken for granted when accepting these
>> grounds as
>> > warrants
>> >
>> > Inductive schema is a RECURSIVE relation where evidence and assumptions
>> are
>> > interrelated or linked.  Weaker bases of evidence [shared knowledge]
>> must be
>> > compensated by increasing levels of assumptions.
>> >
>> > The authors in the discussion section of there article wrote
>> >
>> > "We are in full accord with Clark's shift from a treatment of reference
>> as a
>> > simple matter of linquistic interpretation to a more situated model that
>> > encpmpasses "joint actions" and "joint perceptual experiences" and we
>> think
>> > this this [theory] ... would help to illuminate how participants' own
>> > unfolding activities contribute to the determinant sense of what IS
>> SEEABLE
>> > at any given moment. Furthermore, we have much to learn about the
>> > interactions between different kinds of bases of shared understanding".
>> >
>> > Not sure if others will find the article interesting.  It is another
>> > perspective on the theme of "co-ordinating perspectives"  through
>> > "reflective capacity" as a "socio-relational" process.
>> >
>> > Larry
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