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Re: [xmca] Vygotsky vs. Bakhtin (or, The Interpersonal Is Not the Sociocultural Redux)
- To: lchcmike@gmail.com, "eXtended Mind, Culture, Activity" <xmca@weber.ucsd.edu>
- Subject: Re: [xmca] Vygotsky vs. Bakhtin (or, The Interpersonal Is Not the Sociocultural Redux)
- From: Ana Balboa-Guenthner <anaguenthner@gmail.com>
- Date: Thu, 7 Oct 2010 08:33:27 -0700
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Hello Andy and Mike,
Much to ponder...I appreciate the thoughts shared. Also, great activity
happening in several threads. At the moment, I feel like a seamstress,
sewing with an organic thread.. thank you for all the leads.
See you at ISCAR.
ciao, Ana BG
On Tue, Sep 28, 2010 at 4:55 PM, mike cole <lchcmike@gmail.com> wrote:
> Ana--
>
> I am one of those who believe in useful overlaps and complementarities
> between LSV and MMB.
> LSV (1987, p. 285):
>
> If language is as ancient as consciousness itself, if language is
> consciousness that exists in practice for other people and therefore for
> myself, then it is not only the development of thought but the development
> of consciousness as a whole that is connected with the word.... in
> consciousness the word is what, in Feuerbach's words--is absolutely
> impossible for one person but possible for two.
>
> Today in lab we were talking about the centrality of MMB's notions of
> carnival in the way we design..... ugh, collective zones of proximal
> development.
>
> like that.
>
> seems like authentic potential to me, although I readily admit that one
> could set the two scholars up as mortal enemies if they wished.... humans
> are so clever!
>
> mike
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