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Re: [xmca] obuchenie and the interaction's eye view of learning

Although *obuchenie* in fact supposes both teacher and student, actually it
is often used for a teacher centered situations and this way interaction is
scarsly applicable. So in some contexts it may be used, but not as the only

On Fri, Apr 16, 2010 at 11:15 PM, Gregory Allan Thompson <
gathomps@uchicago.edu> wrote:

> To rather naively (and quickly) throw out a suggestion for
> English speakers that might capture some of the nuance of
> obuchenie, I wonder if "learning interaction" might do some of
> this work. I don't think the words do all of the work
> themselves, but if one points to the concept of "interaction"
> as used in Chemistry, this might get a little more traction.
> As a rather classic example (maybe a bit "tired" for some on
> the listserve) consider: when the highly volatile Sodium atom
> is brought together with the poisonous Chloride atom, the
> result is a rather innocuous compound that can be liberally
> sprinkled on the lip of a Margarita glass to be imbibed along
> with the makings of a Margarita. So which element is
> responsible for the saltiness? Now imagine bringing together a
> volatile teacher and a poisonous student and the possibility
> for a "salty" teaching interaction -- okay one shouldn't take
> one's metaphors too far... But the idea of "emergence" seems
> critical here.
> This is why I find Goffman's work so intriguing. He is willing
> to forget about the actors and focus at the level of the
> interaction and the stuff that emerges in and out of the
> interaction (and Goffman started his academic career at the
> University of Manitoba intending to study Chemistry!). It
> seems that this interaction's eye view of things is what is
> needed in order to see the importance of the "between" teacher
> and student.
> Anyway, I suggest this rather naively since I suspect that
> this is probably different in some very important ways from
> what is meant by obuchenie, but I am not well enough informed
> about obuchenie to identify what these differences might be.
> Does anyone have any suggestions?
> -greg
> ---------------------------------------
> Greg Thompson
> Ph.D. Candidate
> The Department of Comparative Human Development
> The University of Chicago
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Sincerely yours Bella Kotik-Friedgut
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