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RE: FW: [xmca] Arne Raeithel's "genealogy"

Very cool.
Thanks Jonas, thanks Andy.
David


-----Original Message-----
From: xmca-bounces@weber.ucsd.edu [mailto:xmca-bounces@weber.ucsd.edu] On Behalf Of Andy Blunden
Sent: Thursday, November 12, 2009 5:47 PM
To: eXtended Mind, Culture, Activity
Subject: Re: FW: [xmca] Arne Raeithel's "genealogy"

Jonas, The technical manager at marxists.org, has stepped in 
and written some Javascript for us, and thanks to Bruce 
Jones who has loaded the half-dozen successive versions of 
this thing, we now have a diagram with longlasting "tool 
tip" explanations for each writer, as well as a Wikipedia link:

   http://lchc.ucsd.edu/mca/Paper/Genealogy-CHAT.htm

If anyone wants to use this in their teaching, but doesn't 
want to swallow my version of history, it is quite easy to 
change the text in the boxes and if you can take the trouble 
the whole thing is easily modified to taste. If anyone wants 
to do that I am happy to advise. ...

Andy

Andy Blunden wrote:
> You are quite correct, Juha. Since I have been browsing the advice pages 
> I have been told exactly what you say. Also, people using FireFox will 
> not see it at all. I have sent Bruce a version using the title=tag 
> instead which should fix that. The various Javascript fixes that people 
> suggest are really complicated, definitely for experts only, so at this 
> point, we will have to put up with it. Of course, if you click the name, 
> you get the full wikipedia story.
> 
> Andy
> 
> http://lchc.ucsd.edu/mca/Paper/Genealogy-CHAT.htm
> 
> 
> Juha Siltala wrote:
>> Hi,
>>
>> There is no way to control the timeout that I'm aware of. I suppose the
>> information should probably be displayed in a javascript popup or
>> something like that.
>>
>> Using the image ALT text in this way is actually a case of creative
>> misuse of a standard HTML accessibility feature: ALT text was originally
>> designed to be shown *instead* of the image for those who are using a
>> non-graphical browsers such as Lynx, not for showing extra information.
>> In the recent years, the most common non-standard use for ALT text has
>> been many webcomic artists' habit of inserting an extra joke in it -
>> check out the wonderful XKCD for example, at http://xkcd.com/ .
>>
>> Another case of users putting technology into uses never envisioned by
>> its designers I guess. :-)
>>
>> Cheers,
>> JS
>>
>> On Wed, 2009-11-11 at 18:42 -0600, David H Kirshner wrote:
>>> Andy, I replied off-line, but your response was intended for on-line, so
>>> I'm forwarding to the list. ...David
>>>
>>> David H Kirshner wrote:
>>>> Much appreciate the graphic, Andy.
>>>> Unfortunately the accompanying text lingers for only a few seconds
>>>> before needing to be refreshed by moving cursor out of and back into
>>>> box. Is this something that can be controlled on your end?
>>> Andy replied: Yes, very annoying, isn't it David. I have searched 
>>> around the internet, but so far I haven't found any way of 
>>> controlling this time. Any HTML or Java whizzkids out there?
>>> Andy
>>>
>>>>
>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>  
>>>>
>>>>              Andy Blunden
>>>>
>>>>              <ablunden@mira.ne
>>>>
>>>>              t>
>>>> To              Sent by:                  "eXtended Mind, Culture,
>>>> Activity"               xmca-bounces@webe         <xmca@weber.ucsd.edu>
>>>>
>>>>              r.ucsd.edu
>>>> cc  
>>>>
>>>>  
>>>> Subject              11/11/2009 01:18          Re: [xmca] Arne 
>>>> Raeithel's
>>>>
>>>>              AM                        "genealogy"
>>>>
>>>>  
>>>>
>>>>  
>>>>
>>>>              Please respond to
>>>>
>>>>              ablunden@mira.net
>>>>
>>>>              ; Please respond
>>>>
>>>>                     to
>>>>
>>>>               "eXtended Mind,
>>>>
>>>>                  Culture,
>>>>
>>>>                  Activity"
>>>>
>>>>              <xmca@weber.ucsd.
>>>>
>>>>                    edu>
>>>>
>>>>  
>>>>
>>>>  
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>    http://lchc.ucsd.edu/mca/Paper/Genealogy-CHAT.htm
>>>>
>>>> I replaced the PDF with an HTML version, which gives you
>>>> little 50-word summaries of what each contributed to CHAT
>>>> (when you hover) and a link to their Wikipedia page (when
>>>> you click).
>>>>
>>>> Andy
>>>>
>>>> Martin Packer wrote:
>>>>> Andy, thinking on this a bit further, it seems to me that these
>>>> diagrams
>>>>> are trying to do two different things at the same time. One is to
>>>>> provide helpful contextual information to anyone reading LSV's texts.
>>>> I
>>>>> think this itself is a valuable enterprise, one that compensates a
>>>>> little for the minimal teaching of the history of the discipline in
>>>>> psychology, at least. A diagram serving this purpose need go no
>>>> further
>>>>> towards the present than the end of Vygotsky's life. And for this the
>>>>> lines to and from Vygotsky himself would be redundant; he would be
>>>>> connected to everyone.
>>>>>
>>>>> A second task, and a distinct one in my view, would be a diagram
>>>>> indicating forms of, and influences on, CHAT today. Here people like
>>>>> Helmholtz and Fichte would, I think, not play a role - their
>>> influence
>>>>> would be entirely mediated by LSV. And such a diagram would be more
>>>>> detailed about the present: for example, the last row of your diagram
>>>> is
>>>>> almost exclusively people working in the US; it would be helpful to
>>>> see
>>>>> here Scandinavian, German, British, etc. schools of CHAT.
>>>>>
>>>>> I'm not volunteering you for the work (nor do I have time to do it
>>>>> myself), just trying to think through the role of this kind of
>>>>> representational reconstruction of intellectual history.
>>>>>
>>>>> Martin
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On Nov 9, 2009, at 12:18 AM, Andy Blunden wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Yes, it is mind-boggling. Probably better for people to produce a
>>>>>> multiplicity of different perspectives, than try to produce a master
>>>>>> view. There are so many angles!
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Lewin is interesting. Not only was he close to the Frankfurt School,
>>>>>> but he also worked with Vygotsky, and I suspect this is where
>>>> Vygotsky
>>>>>> got a lot of his Hegel from.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Andy
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Martin Packer wrote:
>>>>>>> Andy, I think the map is interesting and useful. But how about
>>> this.
>>>>>>> I was exploring further on the virtual library that I mentioned in
>>> a
>>>>>>> prior message. It turns out there's quite a lot there in English,
>>>> not
>>>>>>> only German. I had been enjoying myself browsing through scans of
>>>> the
>>>>>>> papers of Carl Stumpf, who was teacher of both Kurt Lewin and
>>> Edmund
>>>>>>> Husserl. Teacher-student seems to me one important connection
>>>> between
>>>>>>> figures. Lewin apparently had regular contact with the Frankfurt
>>>>>>> School (connection of 'colleague') before leaving for the US, where
>>>>>>> he would have found himself transplanted into the new milieu of
>>>>>>> behaviorism.
>>>>>>> I think Mike is right, we need 3D!
>>>>>>> Martin
>>>>>>> On Nov 8, 2009, at 9:07 PM, Andy Blunden wrote:
>>>>>>>> I've been thinking ... What these diagrams lack is any information
>>>>>>>> about why a writer is included and what they contributed to CHAT.
>>>>>>>> Would anyone on the list like to put their hand up to write a
>>>>>>>> paragraph (max 100 words probably) on a writer on the diagram
>>>>>>>> explaining their contribution to CHAT and their sources? I would
>>> be
>>>>>>>> happy to collate them and fix the essays to hyperlinks on the
>>> names
>>>>>>>> of each writer? ... if others do most of the writing ... then the
>>>>>>>> diagram might be genuinely useful.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Andy
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Andy Blunden wrote:
>>>>>>>>> Mmmmm. I didn't sign up for an intellecual map of the universe
>>>>>>>>> here! The French Revolution produced a mass of political theory
>>> of
>>>>>>>>> course, but also, it is widely regarded as the inspiration for
>>>>>>>>> Classical German Philosophy, which is one of our sources.
>>>>>>>>> World War One?  I don't know, but I have thought in the past that
>>>>>>>>> what Vygotsky called "The Crisis in Psychology", viz., the myriad
>>>>>>>>> of conflicting currents in psychology suddenly contesting each
>>>>>>>>> other after WW1, was some kind of reaction to WW1 and the Russian
>>>>>>>>> Revolution.
>>>>>>>>> The Reformation and the Industrial Revolution deserve mention
>>>>>>>>> somewhere too, in the atlas of ideas. ...
>>>>>>>>> Andy
>>>>>>>>> mike cole wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> Hmmmmm, like the French revolution or world war I for example?
>>>>>>>>>> :-)
>>>>>>>>>> mike
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> On Sun, Nov 8, 2009 at 4:18 PM, Andy Blunden <ablunden@mira.net
>>>>>>>>>> <mailto:ablunden@mira.net>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>   Both Arne's and mine are listed on
>>>>>>>>>>   http://lchc.ucsd.edu/MCA/Paper/index.html and both are in that
>>>>>>>>>>   directory. I too would be interested in seeing some other
>>>> versions.
>>>>>>>>>>   Something might emerge out of the crowd.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>   It is interesting isn't that it is a quite small number of ...
>>>> what
>>>>>>>>>>   do you say? ... millieux? events? movements? which produced
>>> the
>>>>>>>>>> main
>>>>>>>>>>   ideas, via a whole mass of individual writers.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>   Andy
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>   mike cole wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>       I think your pictured genealogy is interesting, Andy. I
>>>> thought
>>>>>>>>>>       Arne's was too, and I a sure others can make interesting
>>>>>>>>>>       modifications. If anyone could do this in three D it could
>>>> get
>>>>>>>>>>       really fascinating.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>       Part of what makes for the partiality of any such attempt
>>>> is
>>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>>>       position of the creator. Arne was a radical cultural
>>>> historical
>>>>>>>>>>       cognitive scientist of the
>>>>>>>>>>       70's-90's (roughly), an importatant odd hybrid and
>>>> unusually
>>>>>>>>>>       nice guy.
>>>>>>>>>>       Maturana, who is on his list, with Varela, were central
>>>> figures
>>>>>>>>>>       on bringing
>>>>>>>>>>       dynamic systems into the discussion but you do not know
>>>> about
>>>>>>>>>>       him just
>>>>>>>>>>       as many of us do not know some of the figures you name,
>>> and
>>>> the
>>>>>>>>>>       connections such as Dilthey-Wundt or Mead-Dilthey-American
>>>>>>>>>>       pragmatism are poorly known altogether, but fascinating
>>> (to
>>>>>>>>>> me!)
>>>>>>>>>>       in their implications.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>       And, of course, the historical events that various of us
>>>> might
>>>>>>>>>>       highlight as
>>>>>>>>>>       most relevant are going to vary as well.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>       Thanks for the new tool to think with. I'll try to get
>>>> Arne's
>>>>>>>>>>       genealogy put
>>>>>>>>>>       up where yours is and perhaps others will contribute from
>>>> their
>>>>>>>>>>       perspectives.
>>>>>>>>>>       mike
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>       On Sun, Nov 8, 2009 at 6:42 AM, Andy Blunden
>>>> <ablunden@mira.net
>>>>>>>>>>       <mailto:ablunden@mira.net> <mailto:ablunden@mira.net
>>>>>>>>>>       <mailto:ablunden@mira.net>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>          Well, here's my shot at it:
>>>>>>>>>>            http://lchc.ucsd.edu/mca/Paper/Genealogy-CHAT.pdf
>>>>>>>>>>          I have tried to deal with your very valid point,
>>> Martin,
>>>>>>>>>> that
>>>>>>>>>>       it is
>>>>>>>>>>          more the milieux than individuals, but I have also just
>>>>>>>>>> omitted a
>>>>>>>>>>          billion possible arrows so it is readable. It needs
>>> more
>>>>>>>>>> than one
>>>>>>>>>>          person to do this.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>          Andy
>>>>>>>>>>          Martin Packer wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>              My question about the map is what the links
>>>>>>>>>> represent. After
>>>>>>>>>>              all, one scientist or philosopher may accept the
>>>>>>>>>> ideas or
>>>>>>>>>>              another, or react against them, or modify them, or
>>>>>>>>>>       misunderstand
>>>>>>>>>>              them. Seems to me each of these is a different
>>> link.
>>>>>>>>>> Also, a
>>>>>>>>>>              family tree indicates two parents for every
>>> progeny,
>>>>>>>>>> where
>>>>>>>>>>              Arne's genealogy seemingly shows spontaneous
>>>>>>>>>> generation - one
>>>>>>>>>>              figure alone can produce another. And wouldn't we
>>>>>>>>>> want to
>>>>>>>>>>       have a
>>>>>>>>>>              way to map the milieus within which people were
>>>> working?
>>>>>>>>>>       Perhaps
>>>>>>>>>>              something along the lines of the social fields that
>>>>>>>>>>       Bourdieu was
>>>>>>>>>>              fond of sketching, but with an added historical
>>>>>>>>>> dimension.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>              Martin
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>              On Nov 4, 2009, at 1:44 AM, Andy Blunden wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>                  To tell the truth Louise, there are a couple of
>>>>>>>>>> names I
>>>>>>>>>>                  don't know and half a dozen I know so little
>>>> about
>>>> I
>>>>>>>>>>       don't
>>>>>>>>>>                  know why they're included ... or not. Two of
>>> the
>>>>>>>>>> three
>>>>>>>>>>                  "outcomes" are people who think humans are a
>>>> type
>>>> of
>>>>>>>>>>                  computer, so I am not surpised that this
>>>>>>>>>> genealogy is
>>>>>>>>>>       odd to
>>>>>>>>>>                  me. But there is sooooo much out there. So much
>>>> to
>>>>>>>>>>       read. :(
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>                  Up till a few weeks ago I thought that starting
>>>> with
>>>>>>>>>>                  Descartes was not justified, but I take that
>>>> back
>>>>>>>>>>       now. But
>>>>>>>>>>                  somehow, Rene's nemesis, Aristotle, needs to be
>>>>>>>>>>       included as
>>>>>>>>>>                  well.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>                  I don't know anything about Vico, but I find
>>>> Locke,
>>>>>>>>>>       Berkeley
>>>>>>>>>>                  and Leibniz to be rather peripheral to *our*
>>>> story.
>>>>>>>>>>                  Kant certainly deserves an important place, but
>>>> I
>>>>>>>>>>       think his
>>>>>>>>>>                  nemesis, Goethe, may be more important for us.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>                  Fichte is actually the inventor of Activity as
>>> a
>>>>>>>>>>                  philosophical concept (I just learnt that Hegel
>>>>>>>>>> asked
>>>>>>>>>>       to be
>>>>>>>>>>                  buried next to Fichte; like Goethe, very under
>>>>>>>>>>       recognized in
>>>>>>>>>>                  the Anglophone world).
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>                  Hegel is the inventor of Cultural Psychology,
>>> so
>>>>>>>>>>       agreed there.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>                  I think Stirner and Mach are total diversions
>>>>>>>>>> from our
>>>>>>>>>>                  tradition. But maybe someone can explain to me
>>>> their
>>>>>>>>>>       role.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>                  Wundt and Dilthey are important, though I don't
>>>> know
>>>>>>>>>>       them well.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>                  Feuerbach is a bit of a footnote, but if you're
>>>>>>>>>> going to
>>>>>>>>>>                  have Feuerbach, you've gotta have Moses Hess,
>>>>>>>>>> author of
>>>>>>>>>>                  "Philosophy of the Deed", and inspiration for
>>>>>>>>>> "Theses on
>>>>>>>>>>                  Feuerbach". Of course if you think Frege,
>>>> Russell
>>>>>>>>>> and
>>>>>>>>>>       Turing
>>>>>>>>>>                  are important to the genealogy of CHAT, then
>>> you
>>>>>>>>>> wouldn't
>>>>>>>>>>                  want Hess.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>                  MARX, obviously, in CAPS.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>                  And I would have lines from a whole bunch of
>>>> people
>>>>>>>>>>       going to
>>>>>>>>>>                  Dewey, as well as Peirce and Mead, but even
>>>>>>>>>> though Peirce
>>>>>>>>>>                  was the elder, I don't think you can give him
>>>> such
>>>>>>>>>>       priority.
>>>>>>>>>>                  Dewey surely was the leader. Arguable.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>                  And where are the Gestaltists? Again, not for
>>>>>>>>>> computer
>>>>>>>>>>                  cognition, but there needs to be lines between
>>>>>>>>>> Goethe and
>>>>>>>>>>                  Kant and then to von Ehrenfels, and on to
>>>> Koehler
>>>>>>>>>> and Co.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>                  Russian linguists like Potebnya, but I don't
>>>> know
>>>>>>>>>>       where they
>>>>>>>>>>                  came from.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>                  And these threads are all tied together with LS
>>>>>>>>>>       Vygotsky, yes?
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>                  Freud has to be mentioned (I forget his
>>>> sources),
>>>>>>>>>> with
>>>>>>>>>>                  arrows to Luria. And after Vygotsky and Luria
>>>> you
>>>>>>>>>>       have ANL
>>>>>>>>>>                  and thus to present day people,
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>                  I guess, you can't leave out Piaget, and I
>>> don't
>>>>>>>>>> know
>>>>>>>>>>                  Piaget's sources.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>                  I know some people rate Merleau-Ponty, but if
>>>> you're
>>>>>>>>>>       going
>>>>>>>>>>                  to give Merleau-Pony a seat, you have to put in
>>>>>>>>>>       Lukacs and
>>>>>>>>>>                  Horkheimer. I guess Habermas for discourse
>>>>>>>>>> ethics, etc.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>                  I have no idea why Husserl and Heidegger get a
>>>>>>>>>>       mention. I my
>>>>>>>>>>                  humble opinion, as clever as they might be,
>>>> their
>>>>>>>>>>       impact on
>>>>>>>>>>                  Activity Theory has only been negative.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>                  I have no idea why Bergson is mentioned: was he
>>>> a
>>>>>>>>>>       source for
>>>>>>>>>>                  Piaget? Don't know why Nietzsche is there.
>>>>>>>>>>       Interesting guy,
>>>>>>>>>>                  but so are many others. Why von Uexhill?
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>                  I agree that Wittgenstein rates a mention,
>>>> though
>>>>>>>>>> I don't
>>>>>>>>>>                  know how much of a source he has been for us.
>>> He
>>>>>>>>>> is some
>>>>>>>>>>                  kind of version of Activity Theory.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>                  Frege, Russell and Turing are nothing to do
>>> with
>>>>>>>>>>       CHAT. What
>>>>>>>>>>                  about anthropologists??
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>                  Never heard of Maturana.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>                  That's my reaction,
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>                  Andy
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>                  Louise Hawkins wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>                      Andy,
>>>>>>>>>>                      I remember seeing this diagram a number of
>>>>>>>>>> years ago,
>>>>>>>>>>                      and I found it useful as a big picture
>>>>>>>>>> diagram to
>>>>>>>>>>       get my
>>>>>>>>>>                      head around the significant theorist.
>>>>>>>>>>                      Regards
>>>>>>>>>>                      Louise Hawkins
>>>>>>>>>>                      Lecturer - School of Management &
>>>> Information
>>>>>>>>>> Systems
>>>>>>>>>>                      Faculty Business & Informatics
>>>>>>>>>>                      Building 19/Room 3.38
>>>>>>>>>>                      Rockhampton Campus
>>>>>>>>>>                      CQUniversity
>>>>>>>>>>                      Ph: +617 4923 2768
>>>>>>>>>>                      Fax: +617 4930 9729
>>>>>>>>>>                       -----Original Message-----
>>>>>>>>>>                      From: Andy Blunden
>>> [mailto:ablunden@mira.net
>>>>>>>>>>       <mailto:ablunden@mira.net>
>>>>>>>>>>                      <mailto:ablunden@mira.net
>>>>>>>>>>       <mailto:ablunden@mira.net>>] Sent: Wednesday, 4 November
>>>>>>>>>>                      2009 01:05 PM
>>>>>>>>>>                      To: eXtended Mind, Culture, Activity
>>>>>>>>>>                      Subject: [xmca] Arne Raeithel's "genealogy"
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> http://lchc.ucsd.edu/MCA/Paper/Theoretical%20connections.jpg
>>>>>>>>>>                      I never found this map very useful to be
>>>> honest.
>>>>>>>>>>                      Andy
>>>>>>>>>>                      mike cole wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>                          Have you found Arne Raeithel's
>>>>>>>>>> "genealogy" of
>>>>>>>>>>                          cultural-historical, activity theory
>>>>>>>>>> thinkers
>>>>>>>>>>       from
>>>>>>>>>>                          several years back. I am sure it is
>>>>>>>>>> somewhere at
>>>>>>>>>>                          lchc.ucsd.edu <http://lchc.ucsd.edu>
>>>>>>>>>>       <http://lchc.ucsd.edu>
>>>>>>>>>>                          <http://lchc.ucsd.edu>. Perhaps you
>>> (and
>>>>>>>>>> Andy,
>>>>>>>>>>                          and.....) could update it with
>>>>>>>>>>                          more detail. Hegel generated so much
>>>> that
>>>>>>>>>> has
>>>>>>>>>>       been
>>>>>>>>>>                          "laundered" by subsequent "original"
>>>>>>>>>> thinkers its
>>>>>>>>>>                          totally amazing, and ditto Mead (whose
>>>>>>>>>> writings i
>>>>>>>>>>                          know far better, although very
>>>>>>>>>> inadequately).
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
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