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Re: [xmca] Consciousness, Piaget

Well, as I see it, we can't have joint artifact-mediated action as the unit of analysis for thinking, and then have something different for a thought-form or unit of social life or whatever ...


Mike Cole wrote:
sounds like paraphrase of Sfard to me. But still reading and thinking.

On Thu, Sep 10, 2009 at 9:04 PM, Andy Blunden <ablunden@mira.net <mailto:ablunden@mira.net>> wrote:

    Mike Cole wrote:

        One of these is her suggestion that a concept is " a word or
        other signifier
        WITH ITS DISCURSIVE USE (my emphasis). That complicates
        identifying words
        and concepts and moves us toward a Wittgensteinian notion of
        word meaning.

    My take is that a concept is a word (or phrase or other symbol) +
    the actions in which it is realized, so it is constantly
    re-instantiated every time a word is used. The artifact is just the
    universal. A concept is not real or alive until the universal is
    identified with particular actions by individuals. Think of the
    Rossetta stone. Under what circumstances were those hieroglyphs

    Peirce had things to say about this.


        I also think that reading the Davydov materials posted by Andy
        is important
        because VVD was quite critical of Vygotsky's notion of concept.

    Indeed, this discussion is extremely important. Give me another 24
    hours. ...

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