Re: [xmca] Vygotsky, Saussure, and Wolves with different dreams

[Andy Blunden <ablunden@mira.net>]

Steve Gabosch wrote:
> What did LSV mean by a "concept-for-myself," (a phrase, I understand, is 
> derived from Hegel)?

Hegel would never have used quite the phrase, 
"concept-for-myself", but the way Vygotsky is using the 
idea: first concept in-itself, then for-others, and only 
last for-myself - i.e., self-consciousness, is quite 
consistent with Hegel's idea. It's really a play on Hegel.

For example from Hegel's Introduction to the History of 
Philosophy:

"But consciousness really implies that for myself, I am 
object to myself. In forming this absolute division between 
what is mine and myself, Mind constitutes its existence and 
establishes itself as external to itself. It postulates 
itself in the externality."

Andy
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