Re: [xmca] Corragio!

From: Mike Cole <lchcmike who-is-at>
Date: Sat Dec 20 2008 - 16:02:26 PST

Andy-- In my experience many of our colleagues find wiki's hard to use.
Yes, after the holidays we could set up a wiki, perhaps in some parallel
fashion to see how it works. But beware the mistake of assuming others
have easy access to "simple" new practices.

On Sat, Dec 20, 2008 at 3:14 PM, Andy Blunden <> wrote:

> Is there anyone at lchc that could set up a Wiki for us? Wiki is a tool
> designed for a lage number of people to independently add content to a site.
> Wikipedia has proved how powerful it can be.
> Andy
> Mike Cole wrote:
>> That part of our skype conversation is likely to obscure to xmca-ites
>> David.
>> So a little background and thanks for the encouragement.
>> David and I, after discussing our intrepretations of the passages in LSV
>> chapter 5 about goal.task.action.activity.......... talked a little about
>> xmca
>> discourse. I repeated something I have said before and which we are trying
>> to "improve upon" in the xmca facility -- the tendency of the
>> conversations
>> to
>> "slide" sideways, as new features of a topic come up combined with the the
>> fact that many topics come up, over a period of years, repeatedly, but
>> what
>> was achieved in terms of explication at time n is no longer remembered at
>> time n + x. There are some tools to deal with these issues, and David
>> suggested on, the uses of a concordance program. We will look into it.
>> But David also raises another issue which we are seeking to address by
>> adding a straightforward "links" action to LCHC. In just the past week,
>> the
>> Korean site that David tells about included, we have learned of
>> interesting
>> sites from Derek, and I tripped over the site at Bath where there was a
>> discussion recently about Leontiev that was webcast, even, and where
>> members
>> of XMCA knew it was going on even as we discussed the issues
>> and no one mentioned it! Like kiddies engaged in parallel play, disguised
>> as
>> grownup thinking theoretically and engaging in international
>> collaboration.
>> Perhaps XMCA-ites could help out by sending to xmca varous links they
>> think would be good to bring together. Seems like ISCAR would be the right
>> aegis under which to place all of this.
>> Any ISCAR officials listening in? Any suggestions.
>> Interesting comment about Sausure and Voloshinov, thanks David.
>> mike
>> On Fri, Dec 19, 2008 at 5:57 PM, David Kellogg <
>> >wrote:
>> Mike:
>>> You sounded a little discouraged. Let me show you something. It's mostly
>>> in
>>> Korean, but I think you will like it anyway:
>>> As you can see, it's a very big cafe style website: many rooms, lots of
>>> material, and many different functions. Among other things it does this:
>>> a) It's a major means by which the work of MCA and xmca gets translated
>>> into Korean and disseminated in Korea.
>>> b) It is a vehicle for the "Institute of Progressive Education", founded
>>> and funded by the Korea Educational Workers Union (recently legalized and
>>> just now being unlegalized by the new Yi Myeongbak dictatorship).
>>> c) It's the main place where our Thinking and Speech translation group
>>> meets while I am here in America with my wife.
>>> But I didn't set it up.To tell you the truth, I discovered it quite by
>>> chance, through one of my grad students, only about a month ago. It was
>>> set
>>> up back in April by militants of the KCTU, the Korean Confederation of
>>> Trade
>>> Unions.
>>> Like any cafe frequented by busy workers, it's a bit of a complexive
>>> mess.
>>> Alongside the work of Michael Cole (lovingly translated into Korean by
>>> the
>>> director of the Institute of Progressive education, Bae Hicheol, who
>>> teaches
>>> third, fourth, fifth and sixth graders in a single classroom school up in
>>> the mountains of Kangwando) there are ruminations about Desmond Morris
>>> and
>>> the Naked Ape that would make you cringe.
>>> There are even things that make me cringe, like the invidious comparison
>>> between Yrjo Engestrom's work with Finnish primary education and our own
>>> work (we've got TEN times the population!)
>>> But this is the power of complexive thinking! When one branch runs into a
>>> dead end, you almost always find some offshoot flourishing. Volosinov
>>> thought that was a GOOD thing, not a BAD thing.
>>> And yes, Volosinov really LOATHED Saussure; one of the things he liked to
>>> point out was that if Saussure's view of language was correct, any
>>> breakdown
>>> in the system would render ALL of the other elements meaningless.
>>> Fortunately, complexive thinking is not like that.
>>> dk
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