This may seem like a backwards way to approach the issues you raise, Mary &
Andy, but William Mazzarella wrote a book titled "Shoveling smoke" (Duke U
Press) which was a study of how an advertising campaign in india made
condums accrue the meaning of sexiness when they had the opposite meaning
before. Seems like despite opposite sign valence the book might be of use.
mike
On Tue, Nov 11, 2008 at 3:56 AM, Andy Blunden <ablunden@mira.net> wrote:
> Mary, I appreciate all your comments. If there is any hope of progress in
> this area, I suspect you will be part of it! Can I just mention some things
> I have been reading?
>
> Epstein, Steve. Impure Science. AIDS Activism, and the Politics of
> Knowledge. 1996 - about the PWA (People With AIDS) movement in the US in the
> 1980s. VERY different from your situation in RSA in the 2000s, but worth a
> read.
>
> Holland D, Skinner D, Lachicotte W, Cain C, Identity and Agency in Cultural
> World - has an intereting chapter on the cultural world of romance and
> attractiveness.
>
> Borkman, Thomasina Jo, Understanding Self-Help/Mutual Aid. Traces the
> history of the emergence of Self-Help groups in the 1970s and their
> development into self-organising social movements. If only ...
>
> Sen, Amartya and Dreze, J. India, Development and Participation - Sen
> argues that the critical voice of the women in a society is the only measure
> which can counteract poverty.
>
> I think like in Uganda, if we can find out what works at a local level, the
> an intelligent government can intervene by lending aid to those who are
> prepared to fight, rather than intervening from on high, so to speak.
> Government can provide education, publicity, money, .... What the government
> says always affects how the people think. If the government does no more
> than praise People Fighting AIDS, then that will be a help.
>
> On a side note, governments which help women by providing generous
> resources for them to stay home as sole carer for a child, may reinforce
> exploitation of women. In other countries, resources are provided to women
> who want to continue in the workforce and need to pay for child care or get
> their husband to give up work.
>
>
> Andy
>
> Mary van der Riet wrote:
>
>> Hi Steve, Andy
>>
>> In an earlier email, Andy suggested that, "following CS Peirce, you have
>> to coordinate the attack on three registers: the symbolic (AIDS is
>> caused by a sexually transmitted virus), the indexical (a social
>> movement of people motivated to stop the unsafe sex) and the iconic
>> (making unsafe sex look like what it is, not sexy but unsafe)."
>>
>>
>> 1. yes knowledge is key (but not the sole key) people need to know
>> what causes HIV and how it is transmitted, prevented etc
>>
>> 2. indexical: yes, social movements play a role key issue is how do
>> they emerge (can they be initiated?), and how are they sustained?
>> My sense is that those already infected are often part of movements
>> (partly as a means of support they join support groups, they join the
>> Treatment Action Campaign to argue for better treatment options etc)
>> but those who are a high risk or do not know their status, are not part
>> of any social movement until they need it
>>
>> 3. Yes, the iconic. Ultimately, those engaging in sex have to do so
>> differently, they have to do so with 'safety' in mind. As Andy said in
>> one of his emails, they have to associate the act with a problem, and
>> act accordingly. [Andy's points: successful campaigns which "aim to make
>> certain dangerous behaviours just look stupid. Bascially, you need to
>> change the image of a sexually attractive man or woman. It is often the
>> case that rational understanding of the lethal consquences has little
>> effect if people *feel* powerful and good when doing the unsafe
>> practice]. So, the key issue is how does one get the 'individual' to not
>> feel powerful and good in doing unsafe sex? I would love to see some
>> examples of campaigns which portray "unsafe sex being stupid". I'm going
>> to get my students working on that one!
>>
>>
>> I would add a two other 'registers' or suggest adjustments to these
>> registers in addressing the HIV/AIDS problem in SA (and possibly
>> elsewhere)
>>
>> 4. localized or 'contextualised' approaches seem to work best (rather
>> that one strategy fitting all). Different contexts have different
>> dynamics and respond to interventions in different ways. (this is not
>> antithetical to a CHAT perspective things are inherently related to
>> their context). Start small..
>>
>> 5. There is a need for processes/change to occur on many 'levels as in
>> the case of Uganda discussed below horizontal and vertical processes
>> are needed.
>>
>>
>> This next bit is a bit rambling.
>> I agree that 'social movements' play a role. I think it's a bit unclear
>> how this would happen (except with a sort of generalised effect eg
>> apartheid became very unpopular not because everyone took a stand
>> against it the US as a powerful government didn't, and neither did the
>> UK - but because enough people over a long enough time - and yes some
>> with deliberate strategies about how to change the response to apartheid
>> objected to it. It then became not 'normal', no 'accepted', and in the
>> ATheory terms the contradictions became so immense that the system was
>> in crisis.
>>
>> How to do this with the 'activity' of sex? I agree that if women/young
>> girls did something differently in their interaction with male partners,
>> this would shift the dynamics and change the act.
>> I have a few questions about how and whether this has happened as a
>> response to the feminist movement? Could we argue that women in contexts
>> where male and female are considered equal, and/or where a battle has
>> been fought over many years to entrench that equality, have greater say
>> and control within the activity of sex? One of my questions is whether
>> this happens all of/most of the time in those contexts, and another
>> question is whether it was 'feminism' that afforded this?
>> Steve, when you raised the issue I thought of Denmark. I don't know its
>> social history, but I think one key issue which supports the position of
>> women in society in Denmark is that the state provides so many services
>> for women (day care etc). This allows for a different wI think what I have
>> been heading towards is the idea that its yes, it
>> might be a social movement (how does one start a struggle then becomes a
>> key thing), but I think it also has a lot to do with the conditions in
>> which one lives. The number of people who smoke in SA has dropped since
>> the state legislation about where smoking was allowed ie people changed
>> 'individual' behaviour because it is no longer as 'possible' to
>> enact. The 'norms and conditions' about the practice changed.
>>
>> Would it be possible for young women in sexual interactions to create
>> different norms? I don't think so, not on their own. If the society
>> generally supported a different way of acting, and this was the 'norm',
>> then yes, they could, in the activity with a male partner, have greater
>> strength and the possibility to do something different. But in the
>> situation they are in at the moment, I don't think so.
>> An interesting study conducted by colleagues of mine in a research
>> organisation called CADRE found that a dominant practice amongst South
>> African youth is that of 'concurrency' not just many partners, but
>> many partners concurrently (see Parker et al, 2007). This served as a
>> form of 'security' both on an emotional level, and also financial
>> security. I don't know if this is a consequence of the long term impact
>> of apartheid (fragmented and disrupted families, many absent fathers,
>> precarious economic situation). Some of these dynamics exist in other
>> places in the world. But the important thing is that this security was
>> more important than 'safe sex'. It was also the view of the female youth
>> in the video in my presentation at ISCAR, whose mother was HIV positive
>> and ill, and whose father had recently died of AIDS. The argument goes
>> something like this: "no we don't used condoms because if we do the boys
>> will leave us". Now, maybe if you are in a dire situation at home, with
>> parents and other adults who should be caring for you, ill, dying, or
>> absent, then one needs security at all costs. So, how does one deal with
>> this? In a country with such fragmentation, family life is not secure.
>> And HIV threatens this even more.
>>
>> The other issue is that there are extremely high levels of gender
>> violence in the SA context (see Jewkes; Wood & Jewkes; Wood et al). Some
>> extreme examples: recently a woman was verbally and physically abused at
>> a taxi rank in KZN because she was wearing a mini skirt her skirt was
>> torn off her and she was paraded in the street. Multiple partners for
>> men are considered very normal as a women in this kind of relationship
>> your power is not very great. This means that they don't necessarily
>> have, Steve, what you refer to as the "ultimate power and motivation to
>> significantly change how sexuality is done in SA". They might have the
>> motivation, but the conditions don't really enable them to have much
>> power. Patriarchy is very strong in SA. Polygamy is common. In some
>> rural contexts women don't traditionally have the right to own property
>> and are kicked out of their houses by other family members if their
>> husbands die. There are the trends of older men finding younger women as
>> sexual partners because they believe they are less of a risk, or that
>> they as virgins will 'cure' HIV; there are the instances of young women
>> taking older men as partners to obtain money for cell phones, or
>> clothes.
>>
>> Steve asks "What incipient forms have feminism, womens rights movements,
>> etc. already taken? What could be done to help?". I am not sure There
>> is a sense that women do have power in that in most cases they run
>> households (covertly managing budgets/funds); there tend to be higher
>> levels of employment for women than for men (SA unemployment figure is
>> about 27%, and in some rural areas such as that in the research as much
>> as 60%); and there are many church structures which are run by women
>> (Women's Manyano's). But there are also what I would refer to as
>> counter-feminist movements. Within the HIV field, there are proponents
>> of virginity testing - a group of Zulu women who are arguing that a
>> return to culture is the way to combat the spread of HIV. They focus
>> exclusively on young girls and publicly 'test' for virginity,
>> stigmatising those whom they perceive to be sexually active. Many young
>> girls want to belong to this movement of virgins. The social dynamics of
>> forced sex and unequal power in relationships is not addressed. Culture
>> 'silences' those who speak out against the practice.
>>
>> There have been attempts to impact on the gender relations by discussing
>> the role of fathers (see HSRC Fatherhood Project), and building these as
>> better role models (they have some wonderful images of fathers and sons,
>> Mandela and children; see also Morrell, 1998, 2001); and also addressing
>> the notion of 'masculinity', and how it creates the conditions for
>> violence in relationships, and how it contributes to the spread of HIV.
>> One critique of this is that many are already privileged and a focus on
>> their 'condition' takes resources away from the possibility of
>> empowering women.
>>
>> There are also many interventions which focus on the development of
>> youth, providing them with a motivation to live beyond the disease
>> (LoveLife, SoulBuddyz etc). Their rationale is that youth who are
>> motivated towards a significantly different future will not take the
>> risks that those who do not have any hope (about life, employment, a
>> better future etc) seem to be taking
>> All of these approaches have some effect, but do not significantly
>> change the dynamics of the spread of HIV.
>>
>> Why do I keep returning to the local? Maybe because it seems easier to
>> manage and to conceive of something happening. My sense is that over a
>> few years of a research process, the people in this one context really
>> did want to do something differently, and they were open to suggests
>> about what. They are not unaware of the problem of HIV, they were
>> extremely concerned about it. Admittedly, those most concerned were
>> adults (parents who keep seeing youth die). But they wanted to act
>> differently, they don't want their lives to be so precarious. Male youth
>> don't seem to see this as much. They seem to feel invincible, and the
>> priorities in their lives ito a particular identity and status are
>> prioritised.
>> Uganda is interesting. The analysis of why HIV/AIDS incidence has
>> dropped points to a range of processes which run simultaneously (see
>> Low-Beer, & Stoneburner 2003 & 2004). Firstly there were 'horizontal'
>> levels of action which seem to not have occurred in other contexts. What
>> this meant is that people themselves engaged about HIV and death/dying
>> and risk through social networks/community level processes, without
>> there being large scale media interventions. Building on this, there was
>> a particular approach taken on a 'vertical' level. There was public and
>> loud acknowledgement by the state that HIV was a problem, there were
>> media campaigns which reinforced messages such as 'zero grazing', and
>> there were state policies which made it 'easy' to live with HIV it was
>> a notifiable disease, voluntary counselling and testing (VCT) were
>> widely available, medication (ARVs) were widely available. So, it seems
>> that a combination of a vertical process top down, policy/legal
>> framework which create the conditions in which people live with HIV; and
>> a horizontal process (which seemed to be more or less 'spontaneous',
>> create the appropriate conditions for individuals to do something
>> differently. [There is not much mention of 'gender' in this scenario].
>> Of significance is that many of these dynamics do not exist in SA.
>> Discrimination and stigma create terrible conditions for making HIV a
>> notifiable disease (which would then lead to the possibility of
>> marshalling public health resources). The stigma and discrimination have
>> lead to a legal framework which protects the rights of the individual to
>> privacy in relation to their HIV status. The government's stance on HIV
>> has been hugely problematic (Mbeki's era and denthe main role, but there
>> are arguments that it did not start there, that
>> Mandela's government did little to address HIV see Nattrass). Besides
>> the denialism, having a powerful figure like Jacob Zuma publicly
>> acknowledge that he had unprotected sex with an HIV positive person
>> without a condom, and then had a shower to protect himself from HIV,
>> does nothing for the promotion of protective health practices. There are
>> also resource and management issues: in the last 18 months, there have
>> been cases of defective condoms entering the health system. This has
>> lead to warnings about NOT using condoms with certain serial numbers,
>> but all it seems to have done is add fuel to the argument against condom
>> use. In the video, one young woman argues that the government says we
>> mustn't use condoms, because they are not safe. The resource and
>> management issue is confounded by the serious lack of capacity at a
>> local government level post apartheid problems. The pediatric ward at
>> my local hospital has just been closed because it is so unsafe lack of
>> staff. These are problems which exist through the public sector
>> health, education, public safety.
>>
>> However, as seems to happen only in SA, things change very quickly! We
>> now have a new president and a new health minister (who doesn't promote
>> garlic and beetroot and traditional remedies for HIV) (we also have a
>> new potentially significant opposition to the ANC, but that's another
>> story). This new minister (Barbara Hogan) has publicly acknowledged HIV
>> has priority health issue. So maybe things will change ito the
>> management and treatment of HIV (which affects incidence etc). This
>> might set the conditions for a public response which is different.
>>
>> But I keep returning to the local possibilities, because it seemed, from
>> my experience in this one particular research context, that people
>> wanted to know what was 'wrong' and what the dynamics were, and they
>> wanted to be engaged in making it change. I don't think that I (or
>> anyone else) could go into any setting and just try to change things. I
>> think something about the ongoing engagement with a group of people
>> (through a research process), over time, in a way similar to
>> participatory research (with people as participants and not research
>> subjects), stimulates an interest, investment in, and potential
>> ownership of the process. Something in the Change Lab process seems to
>> be similar to this a group of people collectively (and willingly)
>> engaging in a reflection on the nature of their reality (very Paulo
>> Freirian). For me, this is where the potential for change seems to
>> reside in the collective reflection and 're-imagining' of local
>> conditions. This is not a social movement in the sense that there is
>> advocacy etc (very successful with the Treatment Action Campaign TAC,
>> which got the government to role out ARV and mother-to-child treatment).
>> Maybe it seems more possible because for me as a researcher, it is more
>> manageable than imagining a social movement!
>>
>> Mary
>>
>>
>>
>> Some references
>>
>> Jewkes R et al., (2001) Relationship dynamics and teenage pregnancy in
>> South Africa, Social Science G Medicine, 52(5):733-744,
>>
>> Wood K, & Jewkes R. (1997) Violence, rape and sexual coercion: everyday
>> love in a South African township. Gender and Development 1997; 5(2):
>> 41-6.
>>
>> Wood K, Maforah F, & Jewkes R. (1998) "He forced me to love him":
>> putting violence on adolescents' sexual health agenda. Soc Sci Med;
>> 47(2): 233-42.
>>
>> Wood, K., & Jewkes, R. (2001). Dangerous Love: Reactions on Violence
>> among Xhosa Township Youth. In Morrell, R. (2001) Changing Men in
>> Southern Africa. Pietermaritzburg: University of Natal Press.
>>
>> Low-Beer, D. & Stoneburner, R. (2003). Behaviour and communication
>> change in reducing HIV: Is Uganda unique? African Journal of AIDS
>> Research, 2 (1). 9-12
>>
>> Low-Beer, D. & Stoneburner R. (2004). AIDS communications through social
>> networks: Catalyst for behaviour changes in Uganda. African Journal of
>> AIDS Research, 3(1). 1-13.
>> Morrell, R. 199African
>> Studies". Journal of Southern African Studies 24 (4): 605630.
>>
>> Nattrass, N. (2007) Moral combat: Aids denialism and the struggle for
>> antiretrovirals in South Africa. Pietermaritzburg, South Africa:
>> University of KwaZulu-Natal Press
>>
>> Parker, W. ; Makhubele, B; Ntlabati, P. & Connolly, C. (2007) Concurrent
>> sexual partnerships amongst young adults in South Africa:
>> Challenges for HIV prevention communication. Johannesburg, RSA: CADRE
>> (see www.CADRE.org.za)
>>
>>
>>
>> Mary van der Riet; School of Psychology; University of KwaZulu-Natal
>> Private Bag X01, Scottsville, 3209
>>
>> email: vanderriet@ukzn.ac.za
>> tel: 033 260 6163; fax: 033 2605809
>>
>> Steve Gabosch <stevegabosch@me.com> 11/09/08 09:11 AM >>>
>>>>>
>>>> Mary, Andy, I got distracted and didn't ask a question that occurred to
>> me during your discussion of possible social bases for an effective
>> movement to reverse the AIDS crisis in SA.
>>
>> It is an obvious question, and is addressed to some extent in the video
>> that was shown at ISCAR: what about young women? It seems to me that
>> they more than anyone have the ultimate power and motivation to
>> significantly change how sexuality is done in SA. Of all the places in the
>> world that could use a thriving feminist movement - and there are plenty of
>> those - the life and death situation in SA and Africa would certainly
>> qualify it as one of the most needed places. You can't just wish movements
>> like that into existence, but sooner or later, women are bound to form one.
>> Once such a thing begins to roll, all the other social layers mentioned -
>> grandmothers, orphans, etc. - will feel empowered and will also become more
>> politicized. Many of us on xmca are old enough to have witnessed that in
>> the US women's movement, sometimes called the third wave of feminism. What
>> are the prospects of building a women's movement in SA that is willing to
>> take the issues of AIDS head on (not to mention other issues)? What
>> incipient forms have feminism, womens rights movements, etc. already
>> taken? What could be done to help?
>>
>> Well, just some thoughts. What do you think?
>> - Steve
>>
>>
>> On Oct 21, 2008, at 2:10 AM, Mary van der Riet wrote:
>>
>> Dear Andy
>>> I think that there might be a social base for a 'social movement' in
>>> this context, in the sense that parents (the older generation) is
>>> extremely worried about the rate of infection and the increase in the
>>> number of deaths. However, parents/older people have relatively little
>>> 'sway' in this context (as do parents all over the world in relation to
>>> youth).
>>>
>>> Although there are orphans, they are often not in orphanages (SA doesnt
>>> have many and the problem of orphans is huge), but with extended family
>>> members, or grandmothers who remain the sole adults in the family who
>>> have not succumbed to HIV. The idea of mobilising orphans is an
>>> interesting one. My sense is that they are usually so overwhelmed by the
>>> struggle to survive without adults that being advocates for changing
>>> broader social conditions would be hard. They are also often very young
>>> when they are orphaned (under 10), and so disempowered age-wise too.
>>>
>>>
>>> Changing the attractiveness of being sexually active (for example as
>>> you suggest, making taking risks into 'stupid' acts) sounds very much
>>> like changing 'norms/conditions' in the context. There are many
>>> interventions with youth which try to create other activities for them
>>> (so that the focus is not on sex and risks), and encourage a focus on
>>> the future. There are examples of campaigns which focus on creating an
>>> 'HIV-free generation', but I dont think they have re-imaged the idea of
>>> being sexually attractive - and these campaigns have not had much of an
>>> effect.
>>>
>>> Another possibility of a social base is the people who were involved in
>>> the research in the first place (youth in the research context). My
>>> assumption is that reflecting on the findings (of risky practices, rate
>>> of infection, prevalence of HIV etc)> might create the conditions for
>>> future contradictions.
>>>
>>> Do you have a particular reference for Peirce and the three 'registers'
>>> - seems like something useful there
>>>
>>> Mary
>>>
>>>
>>> Mary van der Riet; School of Psychology; University of KwaZulu-Natal
>>> Private Bag X01, Scottsville, 3209
>>>
>>> email: vanderriet@ukzn.ac.za
>>> tel: 033 260 6163; fax: 033 2605809
>>>
>>>
>>> Andy Blunden <ablunden@mira.net> 2008/10/14 03:37 PM >>>
>>>>>>
>>>>> Mary,
>>> Your work is really exciting. The problem seems almost
>>> insurmountable - how to change the sexual mores of an entire
>>> population??
>>>
>>> Just thinking randomly about a few things ...
>>>
>>> Social movements need a social base. Is it possible to
>>> identify some social group who is motivated to dedicate
>>> themselves to this task? For example, efforts to stamp out
>>> alcohol abuse in Indigenous Australian communities have
>>> turned to the older women to recruit their shock troops
>>> because these women suffer from the drunkenness of their
>>> men. Maybe even the orphans in orphanages could be
>>> mobilised? ...
>>>
>>> The Transport Accident Commission here has had a great deal
>>> of success in lowering the rate of people getting killed in
>>> car accidents by advertising campaigns which aim to make
>>> certain dangerous behaviours just look stupid. Bascially,
>>> you need to change the image of a sexually attractive man or
>>> woman. It is often the case that rational understanding of
>>> the lethal consquences has little effect if people *feel*
>>> powerful and good when doing the unsafe practice.
>>>
>>> In general my theory is that, following CS Peirce, you have
>>> to coordiante the attack on three registers: the symbolic
>>> (AIDS is caused by a sexually transmitted virus), the
>>> indexical (a social movement of people motivated to stop the
>>> unsafe sex) and the iconic (making unsafe sex look like what
>>> it is, not sexy but unsafe).
>>>
>>> Does that strike ant bells?
>>>
>>> Andy
>>>
>>> Mary van der Riet wrote:
>>>
>>>> Hi all
>>>> I would like to raise the question asked in both of my papers
>>>>
>>> presented
>>>
>>>> at ISCAR (and referred to by Mike below), about the possibilities of
>>>> intervention in social problems - such as an epidemic. This is also
>>>> partly in response to Steve Gabosch's post (My Iscar), and an
>>>>
>>> off-list
>>>
>>>> discussion I have been having.
>>>>
>>>> CHAT (and the ATriangle) really has helped me to understand some of
>>>>
>>> the
>>>
>>>> dynamics around individual responses to HIV. They have, as Steve
>>>>
>>> says,
>>>
>>>> 'methodological power'.
>>>>
>>>> The most common response to me research topic is 'What do you say
>>>> about interventions?' I don't think there is an easy answer to
>>>> this. There is perhaps not even 'an' answer to this question.
>>>>
>>> My
>>>
>>>> second paper reflected on the implementation of a 'social
>>>> mobilisation' process in the same community referred to in the
>>>>
>>> first
>>>
>>>> paper. I perhaps need to provide some background on the idea of
>>>> 'social mobilisation' as we used it. Some of my colleagues (in
>>>> an organisation called CADRE) had funding from Save the Children
>>>>
>>> to
>>>
>>>> pilot a 'social mobilisation' process. The idea was conceived
>>>>
>>> by
>>>
>>>> Save the Children and was in response to the dominant
>>>> 'individualistic' orientation of most HIV and AIDS
>>>>
>>> interventions.
>>>
>>>> The phrase was not theorised deeply by us and because of time
>>>>
>>> pressure
>>>
>>>> we did not look at literature on other 'social mobilisation'
>>>> processes - which perhaps we should have (and I think that social
>>>> mobilisation in the Marxist sense that Steve refers to is perhaps
>>>>
>>> what
>>>
>>>> the Treatment Action Campaign has been doing ito advocating and
>>>> mobilizing for better policies on HIV treatment and access to
>>>> medication - perhaps a question is what is 'political' action
>>>>
>>> in
>>>
>>>> trying to achieve behaviour change as opposed to policy change?, and
>>>>
>>> how
>>>
>>>> does this relate to 'individual' level change?)
>>>>
>>>> After being given the brief by Save the Children, we operationalised
>>>> it in our own terms (the report is available on www.cadre.org -
>>>>
>>> Making
>>>
>>>> HIV/AIDS >> South Africa, 2002). The initial premise was that this was a
>>>> context
>>>> with a high rate of risky sexual practices, and it was a context in
>>>> which HIV was stigmatized, silenced and 'othered'. The aim
>>>>
>>> became:
>>>
>>>> how can we, firstly, understand and, secondly, influence the
>>>> community's 'response' to HIV and AIDS to that the broader
>>>> context of their 'individual activity' could change. The
>>>>
>>> assumption
>>>
>>>> was that this would set the conditions for individual change.
>>>>
>>> However,
>>>
>>>> it wasn't really an intervention and implementing the process was
>>>>
>>> not
>>>
>>>> based on a CHAT analysis, so my reflection in the paper is really
>>>> applying CHAT after the fact. It also had slightly different goals
>>>>
>>> to
>>>
>>>> what might have been addressed if the research data had been
>>>>
>>> followed
>>>
>>>> through. The social mobilisation process focused on the group's
>>>> 'response' to HIV in
>>>> a very broad sense (in part to address stigmatisation), and this
>>>> broadness, I think, meant that very limited 'changes' resulted
>>>>
>>> from
>>>
>>>> the process.
>>>>
>>>> I think that the degree of interest on the part of residents of this
>>>> particular area in the research process and in the social
>>>>
>>> mobilisation
>>>
>>>> process suggests that it might be possible to set up a process of
>>>> critical reflection through a 'Change Laboratory' process in an
>>>> 'open' setting (ie not an organizational setting). This is
>>>>
>>> what
>>>
>>>> I would like
>>>> to do once my phd process is finished and this might be able to
>>>> generate some 'solutions' to the very huge problem of HIV/AIDS.
>>>>
>>> One
>>>
>>>> of the useful things about the research context is that there is
>>>>
>>> some
>>>
>>>> degree of 'coherence' amongst the village residents and between
>>>>
>>> the
>>>
>>>> villages themselves. However, the research process took place a few
>>>> years ago
>>>> and there have been changes since then. And I am still learning
>>>>
>>> about
>>>
>>>> the 'change lab' process and would need to raise a team of people
>>>>
>>> to
>>>
>>>> engage in something like this, but its something I am thinking
>>>>
>>> about.
>>>
>>>> so, how does one and how can one make 'changes' in society happen to
>>>> the degree that one needs in the HIV/AIDS pandemic (which the UNAIDS
>>>> Report 2008 says is on the rise in Britain, Russia, China, Germany,
>>>> Ukraine and Indonesia)?
>>>>
>>>> Mary
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Mary van der Riet; School of Psychology; University of KwaZulu-Natal
>>>> Private Bag X01, Scottsville, 3209
>>>>
>>>> email: vanderriet@ukzn.ac.za
>>>> tel: 033 260 6163; fax: 033 2605809
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> "Mike Cole" <lchcmike@gmail.com> 2008/10/07 08:44 PM >>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>> We have contacted Taylor and Francis to get the new "arrticle for
>>>> discussion" available as a pdf file on their
>>>> MCA page. Meantime, we have these papers for discussion that one or
>>>> another
>>>> of you has asked to discuss.
>>>> Discuss away!!
>>>>
>>>> mike
>>>>
>>>> --------------
>>>>
>>>> *Race and Language as Capital in School: A Sociological Template for
>>>> Language Education Reform
>>>> * <http://communication.ucsd.edu/MCA/Paper/lukeinkubotalin.pdf>
>>>>
>>> Allan
>>>
>>>> Luke
>>>>
>>>> *THE FUTURE OF ACTIVITY THEORY: A ROUGH
>>>>
>>>> DRAFT*<http://communication.ucsd.edu/MCA/Paper/ISCARkeyEngestrom.pdf>
>>>
>>>> Yrjφ Engestrφm, University of Helsinki
>>>>
>>>> *CHAT and HIV/AIDS: An activity system analysis of a lack of
>>>>
>>> behaviour
>>>
>> change*<
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