Re: [xmca] CHAT and Archetypes

From: Mike Cole <lchcmike who-is-at gmail.com>
Date: Thu Sep 18 2008 - 20:30:18 PDT

My suggestion was probably irrelevant to your aims, Andy.
mike

On 9/19/08, Andy Blunden <ablunden@mira.net> wrote:
> My thoughts are that even though people who use these
> Jungian archetypes believes they are there from birth, they
> really cannot know that. LSV's description of the crises at
> years 0, 1 and 3 years, it seems to me, leave open the
> possibility that there may be more than one *way* these
> crises are resolved - oherwise they wouldn't be crises would
> they? Winnicott saw successful or problematic passage
> through the weaning crisis as producing personality types,
> and it just seemed to me that passage through crises in
> general might be connected with personality formation. But
> as usual I have speculations and no facts.
>
> Andy
>
> Mike Cole wrote:
>> Andy--
>>
>> I do not know if this is helpful, but you might read up on Eisenshtein's
>> use of Jungian archetypes. He worked with LSV
>> and Luria at times. There is a long explanation about the why's of this
>> collaboration which I know only a little about,
>> but Eisenshtein had to communicate complex emotions and ideas
>> (exploitation, grief) without any sound and a largely non-literate
>> audience. Montage was his tool. but to make montage work, you need to be
>> sure that viewers "share" the
>> two representations being juxtaposed, and archetypes would provide that.
>> (The technique did not work out as easily
>> as Eisenshtein hoped it would, but its an "in" to your topic, perhaps.
>> mike
>>
>> On Mon, Sep 15, 2008 at 6:32 AM, Andy Blunden <ablunden@mira.net
>> <mailto:ablunden@mira.net>> wrote:
>>
>> Is there anyone in the CHAT tradition who has a theory of
>> personality archetypes?
>>
>>
>> Andy
>>
>>
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