RE: [xmca] Publish and/or Perish

Thanks, Peter. This is very useful.
Cathrene

I really can't explain or defend the charts and how they're compiled; I
> simply provide one that I use when evaluating tenure/promotion cases.
> Sorry,Peter
>
> Peter Smagorinsky
> The University of Georgia
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> Athens, GA 30602
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>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: xmca-bounces@weber.ucsd.edu [mailto:xmca-bounces@weber.ucsd.edu] On
> Behalf Of David H Kirshner
> Sent: Saturday, July 05, 2008 9:08 AM
> To: eXtended Mind, Culture, Activity
> Subject: RE: [xmca] Publish and/or Perish
>
> Peter,
>
> Can you clarify a few points about the list:
>
> Why are some central journals, like Educational Researcher, not included
> and
> others, like Review of Research in Education, not listed with complete
> entries?
>
> I'm assuming from the low score for Harvard Ed Review that impact is
> calculated by frequency of citation, which means that another key measure
> of
> journal quality--acceptance rate--is ignored. Is that correct?
>
> Thanks.
> David
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: xmca-bounces@weber.ucsd.edu [mailto:xmca-bounces@weber.ucsd.edu] On
> Behalf Of Peter Smagorinsky
> Sent: Saturday, July 05, 2008 4:56 AM
> To: 'eXtended Mind, Culture, Activity'
> Subject: RE: [xmca] Publish and/or Perish
>
> Attached is one "impact factor" list I found for journals in education. p
>
> Peter Smagorinsky
> The University of Georgia
> 125 Aderhold Hall
> Athens, GA 30602
> smago@uga.edu/phone:706-542-4507
> http://www.coe.uga.edu/lle/faculty/smagorinsky/index.html
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: xmca-bounces@weber.ucsd.edu [mailto:xmca-bounces@weber.ucsd.edu] On
> Behalf Of Cathrene Connery
> Sent: Friday, July 04, 2008 7:38 PM
> To: mcole@weber.ucsd.edu; eXtended Mind, Culture, Activity
> Cc: eXtended Mind, Culture, Activity
> Subject: Re: [xmca] Publish and/or Perish
>
> So, who has a list of the ISI journals? Anyone willing to share?
> Cathrene
>
>
>
> The BIG down side is total assimilation to the existing mainstream, David.
>>
>> I personally suggest a multi-valenced approach that includes ISI
>> highly rated journals and deviant ones, like MCA.
>>
>> Michael left out part of the GOOD news. MCA has a rating that should
>> win it ISI inclusion by year's end.
>>
>> I assume the PLAY article for discussion made it to everyone. People
>> reading this weekend?
>> mike
>>
>> On Fri, Jul 4, 2008 at 1:50 PM, David Preiss <davidpreiss@uc.cl> wrote:
>>
>>> As a young scholar, I totally ENDORSE this petition, Michael. Indeed,
>>> I have always thought that MCA`s influence and intellectual appeal is
>>> not commensurate to its lack of inclusion in ISI. Alas, ISI! No
>>> chance but to play according to its rules, I guess.
>>> david
>>>
>>>
>>> On Jul 4, 2008, at 4:39 PM, Wolff-Michael Roth wrote:
>>>
>>> Hi all,
>>>> Mike and I have had a conversation off line. He suggested I should
>>>> write to the list. It concerns the increasing pressure on all of us
>>>> to publish in "good" journals, and universities increasingly use as
>>>> a measure the presence and impact factor ranking in ISI Web of
>>>> Science as a measure. This is especially true for Asian countries
>>>> and other countries. With my graduate students, we always make
>>>> selections based on this criterion, because I want them to be
>>>> successful in their home countries and careers.
>>>>
>>>> In the sciences, this has long been common practice; now the social
>>>> sciences are swept up by the same trend. I have recently been
>>>> bombarded by publishers whose journals have increased in their
>>>> impact factor.
>>>> Furthermore, there are a number of companies that make the rankings
>>>> of their journal a key bit of information on the website.
>>>>
>>>> (Some of) You may be asking what this has to do with you. Well,
>>>> since I have been editing journals (besides MCA, I also do CULTURAL
>>>> STUDIES OF SCIENCE EDUCATION and FQS: FORUM QUALITATIVE SOCIAL
>>>> RESEARCH), I have been asked by new faculty members about rejection
>>>> rates, rankings, etc. And I have been asked by department heads and
>>>> deans as well.
>>>>
>>>> Some may decide to opt out, which would come with dire consequences
>>>> for many, who might find themselves in the position of not being
>>>> tenured or promoted.
>>>>
>>>> Unfortunately, we (MCA) currently are not in ISI Web of Science,
>>>> which places those of you who publish in the journal in an
>>>> unfortunate situation.
>>>>
>>>> One of the ways in which you, the community as a whole can be
>>>> proactive producing the conditions that would convince ISI to make
>>>> MCA one of the listed and ranked journals is to make it a habit to
>>>> cite RECENT articles you have been reading in MCA. Here is why:
>>>>
>>>> The impact factor for 2007 (which is what was made available just a
>>>> few days ago), for example, is calculated using the following formula:
>>>>
>>>> Number of citations in 2007 referencing
>>>> articles published in 2005 and 2006 impact factor =
>>>>
> ----------------------------------------------------------------------------
> ---------------
>>>> Number of citable articles
>>>> published in 2005 and 2006
>>>>
>>>> (They may not take into account self-citation, but I am not sure)
>>>>
>>>> So the impact factor is 1 when a journal had 60 references from the
>>>> outside while having published 60 articles (over 2005 and 2006).
>>>>
>>>> You see, as a community, you can help yourself by citing MCA work in
>>>> other journals. With high rankings, MCA will be included in ISI and
>>>> then you and your peers will be rated higher at your institution
>>>> because it is part of ISI.
>>>>
>>>> Have a nice weekend all of you,
>>>> Sincerely,
>>>> Michael
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Wolff-Michael Roth, Editor-in-Chief
>>>> MIND, CULTURE, AND ACTIVITY
>>>> Email: mroth@uvic.ca
>>>> Journal: http://www.tandf.co.uk/journals/1074-9039
>>>> Submissions: http://mc.manuscriptcentral.com/mca
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>>>
>>> David Preiss, Ph.D.
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>>> 7820436 Macul
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>>>
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