Dear Luiz,
To me some of your comments evoke thoughts of "forgotten
metaphors"...effaced coins, etc.
Nietzche, no?
What makes me smile is thinking of online game currency becoming
"real" currency.
I mean does that demonstrate how "real" the online world is or rather
highlight how fictional the so-called "real world" is? Just a thought.
Writing at marxist.org on currency and Value also seem potentially
apropos.
I've enjoyed workshops facilitated by Constance.
In Peace,
K.
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On Mar 7, 2008, at 8:56 PM, "Luiz Carlos Baptista" <lucabaptista@fcsh.unl.pt
> wrote:
> Thanks a lot, Mike. I haven't written anything yet, I am still in
> the "primitive accumulation" phase :) But I hope to have something
> before
> Summer.
>
> My interest in distributed cognition in games is due to the work of
> Constance Steinkuehler (btw, she has published a paper in MCA). As
> regards
> artifacts, basically I am not satisfied with the approaches to
> online games
> as fiction, or simulation, or what have you. The issue at stake here
> is the
> ontological status of such games. It is clear that they are artifacts
> (Searle's theory of institutional facts might be useful here), and
> even
> include some fictional elements. But since they are persistent
> (i.e., they
> keep on going even when you are offline; in fact, even if no one is
> online),
> they are a very peculiar sort of artifact, and a case can be made
> that they
> are, in a sense, real worlds - or at least parts of the real world.
> A case
> in point is the trade between game and "real world" currencies. As
> soon as
> this happens, game currencies become part of the economy, and as
> such, real
> (people actually make money by trading virtual coins, armour,
> equipment,
> etc.).
>
> I am still in a very early phase of my research, and ideas are still
> taking
> shape. But they keep coming.
>
> Best,
> Luiz
>
> **********
> "The brain is a wonderful thing. Everybody should have one."
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: xmca-bounces@weber.ucsd.edu [mailto:xmca-
> bounces@weber.ucsd.edu] On
> Behalf Of Mike Cole
> Sent: sábado, 8 de Março de 2008 1:07
> To: eXtended Mind, Culture, Activity
> Subject: Re: [xmca] latour
>
> Hi Luiz-- Have you written anything about your online game
> explorations
> that led you back
> to distributed cognition and artifacts?
>
> The Latour article is in a book edited by Law. If someone has a pdf
> of it,
> please let us know!
> (off line is off line, but we are feeding each other tasty tid bits
> of ideas
> here, right?)
>
> Meantime, the following article may be relevant, its freely
> accessible, and
> it gives a pretty
> comprehensive overview of a bunch of related topics.
>
> mike
>
> http://scholar.lib.vt.edu/ejournals/SPT/v4_n3html/RAMMERT.html
>
>
> On Fri, Mar 7, 2008 at 4:48 PM, Luiz Carlos Baptista <
> lucabaptista@fcsh.unl.pt> wrote:
>
>> Hi all,
>>
>> While exploring the brave new world of online games, I rediscovered
>> the
>> pleasures of distributed cognition and the study of artifacts. My
>> bibliographical references in these areas are pretty much up-to-
>> date, but
>> I
>> am still looking for a few rarities. One of them is an old article by
>> Bruno
>> Latour, called "Technology is society made durable". Does anyone
>> have a
>> copy
>> (electronic or in print) that could send me? Please reply offlist.
>>
>> Thank you very much. All the best,
>>
>> Luiz Carlos Baptista
>>
>> **********
>> "The brain is a wonderful thing. Everybody should have one."
>>
>> Luiz Carlos Baptista
>>
>> Instituto de Filosofia da Linguagem
>> Universidade Nova de Lisboa
>> Faculdade de Ciências Sociais e Humanas
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>> 1069-061 Lisboa
>> Portugal
>>
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