Re: [xmca] intersubjectivity, deception, perhaps also theory of mind

From: elizabeth anne daigle <elizabethdaigle who-is-at>
Date: Tue Apr 24 2007 - 14:31:14 PDT

Is the deceptive behavior necessary for winning the game? (the structures of the game require players to manipulate/bluff/etc?-- therefore deception is actively taught/explicitly invited) or is it the children's own strategy for winning?
  Either way, there is much literature suggesting theory of mind is necessary for deception, particularly in research on autism.(Uta Firth, Baron-Cohen, Perner...)
  It sounds like ToM would be a useful construct for your project.

Martin Packer <> wrote:

Many centuries ago my dissertation research was a study (video) of college
students playing a modified version of the Prisoner's Dilemma. (I wanted to
do something more naturalistic but this was a psychology department!) I drew
on diverse literatures to explore the role of emotions in moral conflict.
There was deception, divergent perceptions of the same 'reality,' blame and
retribution, etc. It might be worth a quick look.


The structure of moral action: A hermeneutic study of moral conflict. Basel:
Karger, 1985.

Concealment and uncovering in moral philosophy and moral practice. 1985,
Human Development, 28, 108-112.

On 4/24/07 1:46 PM, "Mike Cole" wrote:

> Dear XMCA-o-philes........
> Our visitor Minati has engaged me in working with her on kids playing a
> complicated game. What we have is a running
> transcript of the narrative and observational notes (no videotape). From
> preliminary analysis, we want to talk about the players
> establishing joint attention and intersubjectivity (they are both attending
> to the game, they know the rules, etc.) but they are both trying to win and
> engage in clearly deceptive behaviors.
> We have been looking for a literature that combines intersubjectivity,
> deception, and perhaps theory of mind. The Machiavellian
> intelligence literature ought to have it, but we have not found it (and we
> are talking humans here, not chimps, and 8-16
> year old humans, not infants).
> Can you provide us with any pointers of to look?
> mike (& Minati)
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