Re: [xmca] FW: Language and Culture

From: Mike Cole <lchcmike who-is-at gmail.com>
Date: Mon Apr 16 2007 - 19:25:54 PDT

I am trying to get the whole article available, David. So far, not
successfully. There are also
important articles in academic journals. I have written about Gordon's work
on number, but what
this article makes clear is that he was a tiny part of a much larger, much
more important picture.
If anyone can get the electronic version to distribute, please do!!
mike

On 4/16/07, David Preiss <davidpreiss@uc.cl> wrote:
>
> Hi Peter et al,
> How great you and Mike fwed this. I read the article and it is amazing.
> There
> are three parts I loved the most: first, the depiction of the intellectual
> and
> personal biography of Everett. What an unusual and carismatic chracter. He
> is
> an outsider enough to challenge the givens of American cog sci an has the
> training needed to do so. Everett stroke me as a new romantic in an
> unromantic
> science. And, second, I loved the way the journalist depicted the
> researcher
> that came "down there" to test Chomsky´s hypotheses and how evident was
> the
> whole experimental procedure was so alien to the culture that was of no
> use
> there. Last but not least, I loved the comeback of Sapir and how fitting
> was
> Everett depictions of the Piraha to the thinking of contemporary cultural
> psychologists such as Tomasello and Mike himself. There are many issues
> there
> that can be nicely framed in a CHAT perspective-
> Thanks to the New Yorker for being there for al of us!
> David
>
> Peter Smagorinsky escribió:
> > a colleague reports:
> >
> >
> > Dear Colleagues,
> >
> > I recommend to you a recent article in The New Yorker about peoples
> living
> > in the Amazon whose language seems to defy Chomsky's ideas that all
> > languages follow certain structural features (universal grammar). A
> > linguist Dan Everett who has lived with the Piraha off and on for many
> years
> > writes that their language which is described as sounding like "a
> profusion
> > of exotic birds, a melodic chattering scarcely discernible, to the
> > uninitiated, as human speech" does not follow Chomsky's universal
> grammar.
> > The article is very engaging and might be useful in stimulating student
> > discussion of the relationship between language and culture.
> >
> > Look for "The Interpreter" by John Colapinto in the April 16th New
> Yorker
> > magazine.
> >
> >
> > --
> > Professor Michelle Commeyras
> > Department of Language and Literacy Education
> > University of Georgia
> > 706-542-2718
> > pulane@uga.edu (currently being forwarded to pulane@gmail.com)
> > http://www.coe.uga.edu/lle/clinic/
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