Re: [xmca] B. V. Belyayev?

Several remarks.

In a better world, the item in such list of
scientific works would be a link to a full text
web page, but in reality we have to face the fact
that the text itself may well exist in a dozen of
copies in several major scientific libraries of
the former USSR, and, probably, also in some
private collections only,--alas. So, it must be
quite difficult--yet very much rewarding, I
guess, given just the title itself and the
assumed general orientation of the author!--to
get the text. "Bez truda ne vytaschish' i rybku
iz pruda", as they say :).

The article on the end of reflexology does not
look that striking to me as of 1930 with respect
to the incoming reactological discussion (I am
under the impression that there was a similar
campain against Bekhterev's reflexology around
that time, although I am not so positive about
that).

Re "the delay between 1940-1961" -- I should say
that the principle of this bibliography list
organization is very peculiar, namely, it mainly
includes the works of the individuals who
did/published their works while being the
employees of the Institute of Psychology (see
http://ipsy.org.ru/01.php , paragraph 4). So,
this major gap in his publications might simply
mean that he was not employed by this institution
over this period.

As to Moscow help, I guess, Profs. Akhutina or
Zimnyaya might be the key people to consult with
(not quite sure about this). Generally, I
believe, the hypothetical interrelationship
between Vygotsky's Thinking and speech and
Belyaev's Candidate dissertation looks like a
promising topic to explore that might even lead
to a special issue of the journal provided all
the necessary bibliographical, archival and
textological research work is done.

Finally, it would be great to hear from Karl what
he thinks about the issue that we touched upon
here.

--- Mike Cole <lchcmike@gmail.com> wrote:

> Great detective work Anton and thanks for
> asking David.
> I tried the websites, Anton, but when you
> click on the works involved,
> nothing happens. For example, I was curious
> about whether Belyaev
> references Vygotsky in 1940 which would have
> been an act of incredible
> bravery or not. And his article on the end of
> reflexology in 1930 would have
> been of at least historical accuracy. And, of
> course, the delay between
> 1940-1961
> was greater than a lifetime for millions of
> Russians.
>
> Let me see what local moscow help is available.
> Might this be a person whose
> work
> should be resurected in Journal of Russian and
> East European Psychology??
> mike
>
> On 4/9/07, Anton Yasnitsky
> <the_yasya@yahoo.com> wrote:
> >
> > Furthermore, the story is even much more
> > interesting than that. Carol's idea of using
> > Google turned out productive, and something
> came
> > out of the search of his name in Russian.
> >
> > This is the list of his works done when he
> > reportedly was working at the
> > [Chelpanov-Kornilov-Kolbanovsky's, etc.]
> > Institute of Psychology in Moscow in the
> > 1920-40s, which is published at the
> Institute's
> > web site: http://ipsy.org.ru/gs123.php .
> >
> > Several titles of the works are quite
> > interesting, however, the one that is
> > particularly in the spirit of Vygotsky's work
> is
> > his Candidate of Sciences dissertation (
> > http://ipsy.org.ru/26.php ), written
> (defended?)
> > in 1940. This is Myshlenie i chuvstvo. K
> voprosu
> > o vzaimootnoshenii intellektual'nykh i
> > emotsional'nykh komponentov soznaniya v
> > protsessakh myshleniya [Thinking and feeling.
> To
> > the issue of the interrelation between
> > intellectual and emotional components of
> > consciousness in the processes of thinking].
> >
> > Interesting enough, isn't it?
> >
> > Best,
> > Anton.
> >
> >
> > --- David Kellogg <vaughndogblack@yahoo.com>
> > wrote:
> >
> > > Dear Anton:
> > >
> > > Thanks very much. This is at least
> indirect
> > > evidence that LSV's ideas were in the air
> when
> > > Belyayev did his book, and that's what I
> need
> > > at this point. Leontiev's presence as
> editor is
> > > even better.
> > >
> > > Dear Carol:
> > >
> > > And copious thanks to you as well. You
> don't
> > > still have a copy of that presentation on
> > > Belyayev, by any chance? Also, what was the
> > > relationship between Lanham's work and the
> > > "People's English" movement? Were they
> related
> > > at all? Antagonistically?
> > >
> > > Gratefully,
> > > David
> > >
> > >
> > > ---------------------------------
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> > >
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