Re: [xmca] New Valsiner SEmiots paper on MCA website at lchc

From: Mike Cole (
Date: Tue Nov 21 2006 - 08:48:18 PST

Stay off the Garden path wtih the slippery slopes, Michael, or get some
conceptual cleats.
Why does believing that people are able to carry knowledge inside their
bodies (heads if you
prefer) does it imply that hat some people hold
greater or superior knowledge to other people? Why not just different, the
better/worse valuation
depending upon the pragmatics of the circumstances.

On 11/21/06, Michael Glassman <> wrote:
> Lara,
> But doesn't the trouble become that once we posit a fiction it can't
> help but become a functional instrument. Once we posit an intra aren't
> we positing a differentiation in not only the way people think but the
> knowledge they hold inside their head. Once we admit to knowledge
> inside the head aren't we heading towards the idea that some people hold
> greater or superior knowledge to other people? Once we do that aren't
> we heading towards a natural idea of expertise, and the idea that
> experts should tell us what to do and that we should listen to them so
> that we can benefit from knowledge? Once we do this, how short a jump
> is it from the idea that people function within nature to people can
> step outside nature, observe it, take knowledge from it, and then use
> that knowledge to control it? How easy is it once we posit dualisms as
> a simple instrument simply to study individual development (which means
> of course that we have to posit individual development is important to
> study - and I am a Developmental Psychologist - or used to be) that we
> become controlled by this idea of dualisms? Dewey said we are drawn to
> dualist propositions so easily because it gives us a false sense of
> security and control. How do we escape that?
> Michael
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> If I may intrude on the issue of dualisms, I'm intrigued by Latour's
> critique of the "modern constitution," which I read as saying that the
> dualities have never existed (were never truly believed) but that they
> serve
> an analytical purpose. I share others' uneasiness with Valsiner's
> emphases,
> but as someone who is primarily a developmental psychologist, I'm not
> sure
> there is a language that can focus on the important differences
> indicated by
> inter/intra without sliding into a fictive duality. If it can get us
> somewhere with our data, then can't we turn around and remember the
> fictions
> we employed?
> What do you think?
> Lara
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