Amateur #7 stepping onto the floor - Valerie, the conference you are
arranging sounds very, very interesting. Jenny, I think many of the
amateurs as well as the non-amateurs would have an issue with the
clause complexes you wrote below, but nevertheless....:
I'm thinking not so much about the fact that we interact with one
another to get tasks accomplished/problems solved or that we use
culturally/socially constructed tools to mediate our thinking such as
what is typically found in distributed cognition or situated
cognition, but about more social/interpersonal aspects such social
positioning, identity, status, power, roles, etc on cognitive
processes such as problem solving or accomplishing goals.
Specifically, a review article on what research has been done in
terms of how our social place in the world affects our reasoning/
problem solving/higher-order cognitive processes.
In unpacking the above, perhaps revealed is an interest in the more
conventional social class issues - ??? Also the hidden power
relations in the un-problematised interactions between experts and
novices?? And the work of Basil Bernstein lies dormant for those of
us interested in the political issues you raise. That might help vis-
a-vis "cognition versus engagement".
What do you think?
On 17/10/2006, at 4:54 PM, Valerie Farnsworth wrote:
> Hi Jenny,
> I'd count myself as an amateur - having only recently finished the
> PhD and being a new member of xmca (so not corrupted yet by myths).
> My sense is that the question you raise is at the heart of a lot of
> work people in socio-cultural and Activity Theory are doing -- it's
> the up-and-coming, hot topic. So, I'd say there is a lot to still
> work out in this research area -- theoretically and empirically --
> and engagement is a good place to start, since you can't separate
> that from cognition (can you?).
> My humble suggestion would be to check out the papers/authors who
> presented at the 2005 ISCAR conference, which went by the theme
> 'Acting in changing worlds: learning, communication and minds in
> intercultural activities':
> Also, in my new position (there is hope after graduation!) at the
> University of Manchester, I am at the beginning stages of
> organizing a conference for next September, which will have the
> theme: Theory, Identity and Learning. The folks I work with here
> organized a conference in 2005 as well and some of those papers are
> still online:
> Best wishes,
> Valerie Farnsworth
> -----Original Message-----
> From: email@example.com [mailto:xmca-
> firstname.lastname@example.org] On Behalf Of Mike Cole
> Sent: 17 October 2006 03:54
> To: eXtended Mind, Culture, Activity
> Subject: Re: [xmca] review article recommendation request
> Hah! It is Jenny to whom I need to write (since all the experts
> around here
> are busy, amateurs step in).
> So that highlights the importance of Sapir's idea which appear to
> especially to the internet: systems leak.
> bless em
> On 10/16/06, Mike Cole <email@example.com> wrote:
>> Hey Indigo!
>> What a gift your message has been. It has debunked a myth and
>> brought a
>> back onto the screen!!
>> Myth 1: Status matters in who gets to post. BS. It never ceases to
>> me how often people inscribe their
>> hated and misbegotten feelings of second class hood (for reasons
>> of levels
>> of education, number of years working in the
>> field, language expertise in English, sexual orientation, option
>> of the
>> quality of Dewey;s writings-- you name IT!! Its 99.9 %
>> self abasement. Bless you for seeking information. Had I known
>> that the 25
>> people on xmca very well qualified to help you
>> out would not respond, and had I not abhored my own overextended
>> voice in
>> this medium, I would have responded, and will
>> to you sans xmca.
>> As to the lurker? (quiet, I will not name him)
>> direct response to my provisinal quick answer to your email.
>> Dispense with
>> it as you like.
>> On 10/16/06, Diane Hodges <firstname.lastname@example.org> wrote:
>>> Well Indigo, looks like you're a grown up now too, doesn't it. I
>>> now be
>>> in awe of _you_.
>>> Diane Hodges
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>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: email@example.com [mailto:xmca-
>>> Behalf Of Indigo Esmonde
>>> Sent: Monday, October 16, 2006 6:14 PM
>>> To: eXtended Mind, Culture, Activity
>>> Subject: Re: [xmca] review article recommendation request
>>> well, aren't you the grown-up sending email to the xmca list!!! i'm
>>> in awe of you!
>>> On Oct 16, 2006, at 10:08 AM, firstname.lastname@example.org wrote:
>>>> Hello XMCA,
>>>> Might someone recommend a good review article of social
>>>> processes in
>>>> cognitive science? If not a review article, then any pointers
>>>> on whose work
>>>> is in
>>>> this general area is just as helpful. I've been reading related
>>>> (mainly how these social positional factors affect engagement,
>>>> but not
>>>> cognition per se), but want to make sure I'm not missing some
>>>> group of
>>>> scholars that I don't yet know about.
>>>> Jenny Langer-Osuna
>>>> doctoral candidate, UC Berkeley
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