RE: CoP? Re: [xmca] A CHAT initiative on the doctorate?

From: Cunningham, Donald James (
Date: Mon May 15 2006 - 13:29:03 PDT

Hi Tony. Assuming there is interest in this topic beyond a few WMDs
(White Male Derelicts) who have responded, I think we could be as
exclusive or inclusive as we collectively wanted in addressing the
issue. I think a little dose of semiotics might also be appropriate.

Mike, the CID was comprehensive to doctorates in all disciplines. There
are certainly unique issues in specific disciplines and we could either
address those or exclude them if they do not fit our chosen context(s).

But I'm, just making this all up as I type. What do others think?

Don Cunningham
Indiana University

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Subject: CoP? Re: [xmca] A CHAT initiative on the doctorate?

Interesting idea, Don.

While we're at this, I'm wondering about Legitimate Peripheral
Participation (LPP) in Communities of Practice (CoP) as a related
framework (i.e., Lave, Wenger, et al.).

CoP theory seems more immediately obvious as a framework for design for
doctoral preparation; but CoP & CHAT seem compatable, overlapping, etc.
but not identical. Don, your suggestion could provide a concrete focus
exploring the relationships between these frameworks.

On Mon, 15 May 2006, Cunningham, Donald James wrote:

> I have been interested in the Carnegie Initiative on the Doctorate
> (there is a recent article about it in the Educational Researcher -
> archer/3503/3592-03_Shulman_RN_C.pdf). It occurred to me that in our
> quest to identify good existing examples of zopeds, an alternative
> strategy might be to design one. Often it is easier to understand
> something you have created than something you are looking at from the
> outside. What would a doctoral program built along the principles of
> CHAT look like? For example, would there be "leading activities"
> "social situations of development" and/or
> "meaning-formation-activities". If so, what are some examples? Would
> using Engestrom's triangles assist us in designing or revising a
> doctoral program? In what way would the essence of a zoped be
> Maybe some of you already know of such programs and could tell us
> them.
> Anyone interested in exploring this?
> Don Cunningham
> Indiana University
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Tony Whitson
UD School of Education

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