Ugh. Victor can you recommend:
[1]http://www.marxists.org/reference/archive/hegel/
and for my 1997 article that you refer to:
[2]http://www.marxists.org/reference/archive/hegel/help/mean.htm
I think [3]http://web.archive.org/web/20020125082736/ is an old
archived version of Hegel-by-HyperText.
Andy
At 08:18 PM 10/11/2005 +0200, you wrote:
Peter,
First read Andy's Meaning of Hegel's Logic
[4]http://web.archive.org/web/20020125082736/www.marxists.org/refer
ence/archive/hegel/index.htm
Particularly sections VI and VII where he discusses Life, cognition
and the ideal.
Then go to Hegel's Science of Logic and review Section III (The
Notion), Chapter 1 (Life) sections 1645 to 1651 (sections 1652-to
1677 are also interesting) and Chapter 2 (Cognition) 1677 to 1684
[5]http://web.archive.org/web/20020213010058/www.marxists.org/refer
ence/archive/hegel/works/hl/hlidea.htm
Lenin also has interesting and relevant things to say about Life
and Cognition in his Annotations on Book III (The Notion) of
Hegel's Science of Logic from Lenin's Collected Works Vol. 38 pp.
164 -238.
[6]http://web.archive.org/web/20020223154955/www.marxists.org/archi
ve/lenin/works/1914/cons-logic/ch03.htm
To compare these to Ilyenkov's works I'd suggest looking at
Dialectics of the Abstract & the Concrete in Marx's Capital (1960)
Especially Chapters 2 and 3, the first 3 sections.
[7]http://www.marxists.org/archive/ilyenkov/works/abstract/index.ht
m
And his Dialectical Logic (1974) Section 2 chapters 7, 8, and
9.[8]http://www.marxists.org/archive/ilyenkov/works/essays/index.ht
m
It's also worth looking at his Concept of the Ideal (1977)
[9]http://www.marxists.org/archive/ilyenkov/works/ideal/ideal.htm
from paragraphs 106 right on to the end.
I hope this helps
Victor Friedlander-Rakocz
victor@kfar-hanassi.org.il
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Subject: [xmca] concept as gambit
Victor,
You wrote:
the concept, is a gambit that is in fact a subjective challenge to
objective social practice (the idea is Hegelian though Hegel as an
idealist had a much more restricted concept of the negating effect
of the concept than that implicit in Marxian dialectics).
I find this comment extremely clarifying (with respect to the
ongoing discussion) and exciting. Could you perhaps provide
references for further reading on this? In what works/sections
would you say Hegel touches on this? Do you have any papers that
expand on this comment?
Also, I'm wondering whether this idea was really refused by _all_
Soviet dialecticians...
Peter
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References
1. http://www.marxists.org/reference/archive/hegel/
2. http://www.marxists.org/reference/archive/hegel/help/mean.htm
3. http://web.archive.org/web/20020125082736/
4. http://web.archive.org/web/20020125082736/www.marxists.org/reference/archive/hegel/index.htm
5. http://web.archive.org/web/20020213010058/www.marxists.org/reference/archive/hegel/works/hl/hlidea.htm
6. http://web.archive.org/web/20020223154955/www.marxists.org/archive/lenin/works/1914/cons-logic/ch03.htm
7. http://www.marxists.org/archive/ilyenkov/works/abstract/index.htm
8. http://www.marxists.org/archive/ilyenkov/works/essays/index.htm
9. http://www.marxists.org/archive/ilyenkov/works/ideal/ideal.htm
10. http://dss.ucsd.edu/mailman/listinfo/xmca
11. http://dss.ucsd.edu/mailman/listinfo/xmca
12. http://ethicalpolitics.org/alexander-surmava/index.htm
13. http://ethicalpolitics.org/alexander-surmava/index.htm
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