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Dear Mike You are absolutely right when you say “When I see the word "rural" in Luisa's note my first thought is -- how will the students get there and be involved? Without those reciprocal relations of exchange (a term I learned from Olga that seems appropriate to such projects), costs of such an undertaking are too great”. As UAb (Universidade Aberta) is a distance teaching university, our students are living in rural and urban territories. However, they are working people and they do not have much time to a project like this one. In the exploratory research we have been doing, we had the participation of UAb Local learning centers network coordinators and local municipal agents. And this is a very interesting way we are going to explore because reciprocal relations of exchange may occur. In what concerns students’ participation, I am optimistic, it is a question of time and motivation that may be changed if the project becomes more and more grounded. Thank you for the reference. I am going to read Deborah’s article. Best, Luísa On 6 October 2013 17:33, mike cole <lchcmike@gmail.com> wrote: > Luisa and anyone contemplating some version of the out-of-school research > effort such as > the 5thD or LCM. In each case, these efforts rest on actual involvement of > a university faculty member who is permitted to offer a theory/practice > course that keeps a steady stream of > students involving themselves in community-based, participatory, > engagement. > > When I see the word "rural" in Luisa's note my first thought is -- how will > the students get there and be involved? Without those reciprocal relations > of exchange (a term I learned from Olga that seems appropriate to such > projects), costs of such an undertaking are too great. > > Also, there is a quite successful 5thD innovation started many years ago at > San Diego State U > and now run by Deborah Poole, that is NOT focused on new digital > technologies at all. Some > use of such technologies is helpful and maybe necessary for purposes of > inter and intra institutional communication, but not for creating > development enhancing settings where > undergrads and local youth are jointly involved. > > mike > > PS- Deborah has an article about her site in MCA > : Mind, Culture, and > Activity<http://65.54.113.26/Journal/15982/mind-culture-and-activity> > , vol. 18, no. 3, pp. 216-236, 2011 > > > On Sun, Oct 6, 2013 at 8:57 AM, Luisa Aires <laires11@gmail.com> wrote: > > > Dear Greg > > There are several constraints and I would like to point out: > > 1- Lack of funding. > > 2- The difficulty to bring together students, universities, companies, > > local authorities around a common goal: to participate in social > inclusion > > processes with digital media. > > 3- A kind of a (political) demonization of education to digital > > participation, after a strong investment (in the country) in the access > to > > digital artifacts. > > > > Best, > > Luísa > > > > > > On 6 October 2013 16:30, Greg Thompson <greg.a.thompson@gmail.com> > wrote: > > > > > Luisa, > > > Could you say more about the "but it's hard" part of your comment? > > > Wondering what kinds of challenges you are up against in developing a > > > 5D/clase magica-like program in the north of Portugal. > > > -greg > > > p.s. apologies for my lack of diacritics! > > > > > > > > > On Sun, Oct 6, 2013 at 3:14 AM, Luisa Aires <laires11@gmail.com> > wrote: > > > > > > > “Mediation through artifacts” opened me the way to interpret adult > > > learning > > > > and mediated action with television, almost twenty years ago. Right > > now I > > > > am trying to analyze learning with digital media - locally situated > > > > literacies within local cultures. I am trying to "push" a program > like > > > > Cole’s Fifth Dimension, Vasquez’s “La clase mágica”, in rural > > territories > > > > in the north of Portugal, but it’s hard ;-) > > > > Best, > > > > > > > > Luísa Aires, Ph.D. > > > > Department of Education and Distance Learning > > > > Universidade Aberta (Portugal) > > > > > > > > On 5 October 2013 18:35, Elizabeth Hadley Nickrenz < > > > nickrenz@uchicago.edu > > > > >wrote: > > > > > > > > > Right now I am busiest with the start of my Introduction to Human > > > > > Development course, looking back on rough spots from last year and > > > trying > > > > > to figure out how to fine-tune and improve them. Which reminds me, > I > > > had > > > > a > > > > > question I wanted to ask you all. Does anyone have any examples of > > > > > "mediation through artifacts" and/or "practical activity" that > they > > > have > > > > > found particularly helpful in illustrating these concepts for > > > > > undergraduates? > > > > > > > > > > Best, > > > > > > > > > > Elizabeth Fein, Ph.D. > > > > > Department of Comparative Human Development > > > > > University of Chicago > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ________________________________________ > > > > > From: xmca-l-bounces@mailman.ucsd.edu [ > > xmca-l-bounces@mailman.ucsd.edu > > > ] > > > > > on behalf of mike cole [lchcmike@gmail.com] > > > > > Sent: Thursday, October 03, 2013 4:01 PM > > > > > To: xmca-l@ucsd.edu; eXtended Mind, Culture,Activity > > > > > Cc: Bruce Jones > > > > > Subject: [Xmca-l] Messages on XMCA > > > > > > > > > > Bruce is asking about absence of email on xmca. I have sent a > couple > > of > > > > > message, but of course do not > > > > > see them except later on the accumulated list. > > > > > > > > > > What's new? There sure are a lot of you out there. Hit reply and > say > > > > > something about what you > > > > > are working on or wondering about. > > > > > > > > > > For example, I have been fussing over vocabulary confusions in a > > course > > > > > that I visit in Colorado taught by > > > > > Kris G. Learning, development, practice, zoped, social situation > of > > > > > development, context...... how are they related in Vygotky's > theor?? > > > > Simple > > > > > questions like that. > > > > > > > > > > And you?? > > > > > mike > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > Gregory A. Thompson, Ph.D. > > > Visiting Assistant Professor > > > Department of Anthropology > > > 883 Spencer W. Kimball Tower > > > Brigham Young University > > > Provo, UT 84602 > > > http://byu.academia.edu/GregoryThompson > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > > > > > > > > ---- > > Universidade Aberta, Porto > > R.Amial, nº 752 > > 4200-055 Porto > > laires@uab.pt > > > -- ---- Universidade Aberta, Porto R.Amial, nº 752 4200-055 Porto laires@uab.pt Status: O