Re: [xmca] Francois Cooren

[Larry Purss <lpscholar2@gmail.com>]

Greg, the "how so" that considers micro-interaction may have an
*as-structure" or ventriloquation of language as metaphoricity.

In the foreword to the book, [pageXV] the author states,

Attention shifts from speech to *figures* of speech. Then an even stranger
thing happens: The very notion of figures of speech reverses itself and
becomes *literal*: we are being acted upon by these invisible entities that
*haunt* us and populate (or even crowd) the interaction.  At this point,
ventriloquism is inverted: we, the human subjects are the *dummies* toward
which other entities are projecting their real voices AS IF they were
coming from us. All the studies of metaphor, of story telling, or staging
arguments are put upside down. We are spoken or silenced by others, by
*aliens* toward which we should direct our attention IF we want to
UNDERSTAND what makes us act or speak"

Greg, this description of the sequence FROM  figures of speech TO the
literal as a movement or process  *AS IF* the voices [or texts] were coming
from us, points to Gadamer's notion: *fusion* of horizons.  Language *as*
fusion [language as metaphoricity or as-structure].
THIS process BECOMES literal as a dialogical relational process.
When we are spoken or silenced by *aliens* or alterity we are put into
question and OPENED. How we are opened by the invisible entities that haunt
us and populate our interactions becomes a matter of interpretation which
may lead to genuine understanding.

Larry
On Sat, Jun 2, 2012 at 10:56 PM, Greg Thompson <greg.a.thompson@gmail.com>wrote:

> don't know about ventriloquation/dual stimulation (sounds promising).
> Rather I'm seeing connections to a processual/relational ontology in which
> the medium (communication) constitutes the so-called "things" of the world.
> (cf. Korzybski, Abbott, and Packer), with an answer to "how so" that
> considers micro-interaction. Very appealing (to me).
> -greg
>
>
> On Sat, Jun 2, 2012 at 9:35 PM, mike cole <lchcmike@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > I wonder if ventriloquation is related in any way to the notion of dual
> > stimulation?
> >
> > mike
> >
> > On Sat, Jun 2, 2012 at 9:19 PM, Larry Purss <lpscholar2@gmail.com>
> wrote:
> >
> > > Greg, here is a further description of the book. It seems to be the
> book
> > > is putting into question a similar theme to Gadamer who suggests
> > effective
> > > history has its own agency [living text] and the *fusion* of
> > understandings
> > > modify [expand] BOTH horizons.  The text has its own agency.
> > > Not sure if Gadamer is included in this book but the theme seems
> > > fascinating [and a way to understand organizations]
> > > The cost of the book is prohibitive but the theme is fascinating.
> > > Larry
> > >
> > > FROM THE PUBLISHER
> > >
> > > What happens when people communicate or dialogue with each other? This
> is
> > > the daunting question that this book proposes to address by starting
> > from a
> > > controversial hypothesis: What if human interactants were not the only
> > ones
> > > to be considered, paraphrasing Austin (1962), as 'doing things with
> > words'?
> > > That is, what if other 'things' could also be granted the status of
> > agents
> > > in a dialogical situation? "Action and Agency in Dialogue: Passion,
> > > Incarnation, and Ventriloquism" proposes to explore this unique
> > hypothesis
> > > by mobilizing metaphorically the notion of ventriloquism. According to
> > this
> > > ventriloqual perspective, interactions are never purely local, but
> > > dislocal, that is, they constantly mobilize figures (collectives,
> > > principles, values, emotions, etc.) that incarnate themselves in
> people's
> > > discussions. This highly original book, which develops the analytical,
> > > practical and ethical dimensions of such a theoretical positioning, may
> > be
> > > of interest to communication scholars, linguists, sociologists,
> > > conversation analysts, management and organizational scholars, as well
> as
> > > philosophers interested in language, action and ethics.
> > >
> > >
> > > On Sat, Jun 2, 2012 at 8:59 PM, Greg Thompson <
> greg.a.thompson@gmail.com
> > > >wrote:
> > >
> > > > Anyone out there know much about Francois Cooren or the Montreal
> School
> > > of
> > > > Organizational Communication?
> > > >
> > > > As for the former, Cooren's book Action and Agency in Dialogue asks:
> > > > "What if human interactants were not the only ones to be considered,
> > > > paraphrasing Austin (1962), as “doing things with words”? That is,
> what
> > > if
> > > > other “things” could also be granted the status of agents in a
> > dialogical
> > > > situation?"
> > > >
> > > > As for the latter, the MSOC is characterized by wikipedia as:
> > > > "taking communication as the "site and surface" of organizations,
> > meaning
> > > > that the latter emerge from and are maintained by communication
> > > processes."
> > > >
> > > > Both of these seem to be very important points that, I thought,
> > > articulate
> > > > well with recent XMCA conversations.
> > > >
> > > > Anyone have any insight?
> > > > Perhaps a recommendation?
> > > > -greg
> > > >
> > > > --
> > > > Gregory A. Thompson, Ph.D.
> > > > Sanford I. Berman Post-Doctoral Scholar
> > > > Laboratory of Comparative Human Cognition
> > > > Department of Communication
> > > > University of California, San Diego
> > > > http://ucsd.academia.edu/GregoryThompson
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