Hi Joseph
I wonder whether the ultimate finality of the word--"everything is
relative
to the word"--provides a too narrow, monistic view. Euclidean
geometry is
rich in proofs which are presented through visual abstraction.
These can be
explained verbally but their persuasive power is visual.
This is an interesting though wandering discussion from toes to
Euclid.
Vera
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Nothing communicates as profoundly as vocal sounds, - motions of the
human body -. Everything is named, - identified -, by sounds made by
our body. Our own body-emotional goings on is the currency by which
all else is valued. We relate to our world with our word. Everything
is reletive to the word. The "final word" on anything IS the word.
The only handle we have on the meaning of our world is the effect on
us of the sounds of our words. We can prove nothing and can only feel
our vocal sounds for information of how we are affected by things. It
takes different words to communicate different information. Bear in
mind that words are fundamentally sounds and secondarily, referential
tools. When we refer to a thing, the referential tool is between
ourselves and the thing. We perceive and are affected by the tool -
the word - first and foremost and then also by the thought of the
referred-to thing. Subliminally, the word defines the thing:
Consciously, the thing defines the word.
Joseph Gilbert
On Jun 2, 2012, at 8:59 PM, Greg Thompson wrote:
Anyone out there know much about Francois Cooren or the Montreal
School of
Organizational Communication?
As for the former, Cooren's book Action and Agency in Dialogue asks:
"What if human interactants were not the only ones to be considered,
paraphrasing Austin (1962), as "doing things with words"? That is,
what if
other "things" could also be granted the status of agents in a
dialogical
situation?"
As for the latter, the MSOC is characterized by wikipedia as:
"taking communication as the "site and surface" of organizations,
meaning
that the latter emerge from and are maintained by communication
processes."
Both of these seem to be very important points that, I thought,
articulate
well with recent XMCA conversations.
Anyone have any insight?
Perhaps a recommendation?
-greg
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Gregory A. Thompson, Ph.D.
Sanford I. Berman Post-Doctoral Scholar
Laboratory of Comparative Human Cognition
Department of Communication
University of California, San Diego
http://ucsd.academia.edu/GregoryThompson
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