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Re: [xmca] Special issue on Vygotsky's legacy: groundbreaking discoveries in PsyAnima, Dubna Psychological Journal (just choose your right ISM and become and IST)!
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And shouldn't "the genius of the man" Vygotsky be entirely beside the point
for us CHAT theorists?
Or are we still hidebound to individualist (modernist/capitalist?)
assumptions about things like "genius"?
-greg
2012/3/23 larry smolucha <lsmolucha@hotmail.com>
>
> Something to consider:The authenticity of Shakespeare's works is also
> debatable with some works likeHamlet having been published without
> Shakespeare's name on it (while the text ofThomas Kydd's play Hamlet has
> never been found.) And, there are experts who doubt that Shakespeare wrote
> some plays that have his name on them. Never-the-less people continueto
> find the words inspiring.
> Questioning the authenticity of Vygotsky texts, like the Shakespeare
> texts, can become a scholarly field within itself. It does not diminish the
> richness of the Vygotsky texts anymore than the Shakespeare texts are
> diminished.These are not the so-called Vygotsky texts anymore than works
> attributed to Shakespeare are the so-called Shakespeare plays.
> The attempt to erase Vygotsky from history was made under the Stalin
> regime by banning hiswritings, now the writings have been widely
> disseminated but the implication is that the author is unknown. This
> implies there is no Vygotsky's theory (of anything).
> The alleged Vygotsky texts could be treated as only precursors to
> Leontiev's Activity Theory - only of historical interest ( I was actually
> told this in the 1987 by Norris Minick. Obviously,I never bought this
> argument.).
> Unable to definitively say what Vygotsky really said, thought, or meant,
> the thorough exegesisof the attributed texts remains the basis for all
> neo-Vygotskian theories.
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> > Date: Fri, 23 Mar 2012 16:35:33 +0000
> > Subject: Re: [xmca] Special issue on Vygotsky's legacy: groundbreaking
> discoveries in PsyAnima, Dubna Psychological Journal (just
> choose your right ISM and become and IST)!
> > From: huw.softdesigns@gmail.com
> > To: xmca@weber.ucsd.edu
> > CC: xmca-bounces@weber.ucsd.edu
> >
> > 2012/3/23 Peter Feigenbaum <pfeigenbaum@fordham.edu>
> >
> > > Colleagues,
> > >
> > > I would like to interject into this discussion (what I hope will be) a
> > > helpful comment. From the perspective of discourse analysis as
> espoused by
> > > Bakhtin, every utterance is a *response* to some previous utterance. It
> > > serves primarily as a *reflection* upon another person's utterance and
> > > thought. In discussing the structure of inner speech thinking, Vygotsky
> > > arrives at a similar notion: every utterance of inner speech is a
> > > *predicate* that refers back to some idea already held in
> consciousness.
> > > (In typical conversation, ideas get into consciousness when one is
> > > listening to the words of others). So it should come as no surprise
> that
> > > Vygotsky's writings and ideas can be construed as consisting largely
> of the
> > > words and ideas of other great thinkers that preceded him.
> > >
> > > On the other hand, every utterance also has the potential to point
> forward
> > > toward a new topic. Competent speakers not only produce utterances that
> > > meet the cultural obligation of responding to what went before, but
> they
> > > also have the opportunity to fashion their responses so that they also
> > > *initiate* new ideas and move the conversation in new directions. It is
> > > this aspect of speech--the proactive, future-oriented,
> behavior-regulating
> > > aspect of speech--that we should look to when we are assessing what
> kind of
> > > intellectual mark a person makes upon the world of ideas. To know
> whether
> > > Vygotsky was a Marxist, for example, the evidence we should look for
> is how
> > > he used the ideas of Marx and Engels to put psychology on a new
> foundation.
> > >
> > >
> > I think we basically agree with these points, however that method doesn't
> > address the "pratical value" of categorising. Marx used Hegels ideas,
> that
> > doesn't mean he was Hegelian. Going beyond any personal ontology, to
> say
> > that one was in agreement with Marx to the point of being an adherent,
> > would be to agree with their motive or set of values worth surviving.
> You
> > can infer why (motive) from what (idea) and how (means of application),
> > though it is more direct to start with why.
> >
> > My interpretation of Anton's "NOBODY (no ruskie) 'helped'", is a
> subjective
> > statement about learning: the more profound a communication the more
> > independent is the rediscovery. Any such notional help, could also be
> > hindrance. But has the same motive been communicated, is this what Andy
> is
> > asking?
> >
> > Huw
> >
> >
> > > My two cents.
> > >
> > > Peter
> > >
> > > Peter Feigenbaum, Ph.D.
> > > Associate Director of Institutional Research
> > > Fordham University
> > > Thebaud Hall-202
> > > Bronx, NY 10458
> > >
> > > Phone: (718) 817-2243
> > > Fax: (718) 817-3203
> > > e-mail: pfeigenbaum@fordham.edu
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > From: Anton Yasnitsky <the_yasya@yahoo.com>
> > > To: "ablunden@mira.net" <ablunden@mira.net>, "eXtended Mind,
> > > Culture, Activity" <xmca@weber.ucsd.edu>, "eXtended Mind, Culture,
> > > Activity" <xmca@weber.ucsd.edu>
> > > Date: 03/23/2012 10:41 AM
> > > Subject: Re: [xmca] Special issue on Vygotsky's legacy:
> > > groundbreaking discoveries in PsyAnima, Dubna
> Psychological
> > > Journal (just choose your right ISM and become and IST)!
> > > Sent by: xmca-bounces@weber.ucsd.edu
> > > ------------------------------
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Andy, I personally do not find this question meaningful.
> > >
> > >
> > > Thus, I would extend your question into a series of further similar
> > > questions:
> > >
> > > How many of us, present here, would consider ourselves as
> > >
> > > -Marxist?
> > >
> > > -Vygotskyist?
> > >
> > > -Deweyist?
> > >
> > > -Spinozist?
> > >
> > > -Engelsist?
> > >
> > > -Trotskyist?
> > >
> > > -Leninist?
> > >
> > > -Lewinist?
> > >
> > > -Koffkist?
> > >
> > > -Gestaltist?
> > >
> > > -cultural-historicist?
> > >
> > > -cultural-activity-theorist?
> > >
> > > -mechanicist?
> > >
> > > -reductionist?
> > >
> > > -holicist?
> > >
> > > -etc.
> > >
> > >
> > > Anyone is invited to ponder over this list and choose a right
> combination
> > > of labels of ISTs that would best characterize her or his scientific
> credo.
> > >
> > >
> > > The purpose of this list is to show that although we might be
> sympathetic
> > > with some author(s) and use his(their) legacy,
> > >
> > > it is virtually never productive, imho, to restrict one's work to a
> single
> > > "ist" influence.
> > >
> > >
> > > Not to mention the fact that labeling more often than not does no good,
> > > any time, any place ;)...
> > >
> > >
> > > Cheers,
> > >
> > > AY
> > >
> > >
> > > PS As to the essence of Andy's question: yes, Vygotsky was at times
> > > fooling around with Marx and Engles's ideas and quotes, like with a
> bunch
> > > of many other,
> > >
> > > from lots of different other sources. Like I previously said: Vygotsky
> was
> > > utterly derivative, indeed :)...
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > ________________________________
> > > From: Andy Blunden <ablunden@mira.net>
> > > To: "eXtended Mind, Culture, Activity" <xmca@weber.ucsd.edu>
> > > Sent: Friday, March 23, 2012 10:13:39 AM
> > > Subject: Re: [xmca] Special issue on Vygotsky's legacy: groundbreaking
> > > discoveries in PsyAnima, Dubna Psychological Journal (link reminder)!
> > >
> > > Anton,
> > > I now have a PDF of your Vygotsky sociointellectual biography article.
> > > Could I just ask you one question? In your opinion, did Vygotsky
> > > consider himself a Marxist?
> > >
> > > Andy
> > >
> > > Anton Yasnitsky wrote:
> > > > Oh, yes, and for those, who lost or missed the link to the special
> issue
> > > web site, here it is with all multilingual texts in English, Russian,
> > > Portuguese, and French, including the first ever publication of
> Vygotsky's
> > > rarest materials of 1922 :) --
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > http://www.psyanima.ru/journal/2011/4/index.php
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > :)
> > > >
> > > > AY
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > ________________________________
> > > > From: Anton Yasnitsky <the_yasya@yahoo.com>
> > > > To: larry smolucha <lsmolucha@hotmail.com>; Activity eXtended Mind
> > > Culture <xmca@weber.ucsd.edu>
> > > > Sent: Friday, March 23, 2012 8:34:55 AM
> > > > Subject: Re: [xmca] Special issue on Vygotsky's legacy:
> groundbreaking
> > > discoveries in PsyAnima, Dubna Psychological Journal (Tool &
> Sign/Symbol
> > > comments)!
> > > >
> > > > Some comments on Tool and Sign, first published in Russian in 1984,
> and
> > > in English in 1994:
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > 1. No diagrams whatsoever in the Russian publication of 1984 can be
> > > found.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > 2. We do not know what Vygotsky was -- or was not pushing -- since we
> > > have NO evidence that he was aware of the existence of this text,
> whether
> > > under the title "Tool and sign" or "Tool and symbol" or any other
> else. For
> > > the list of all half dozen titles or so under which the text was
> published
> > > see: http://www.psyanima.ru/journal/2011/4/2011n4a1/2011n4a1.pdf ,
> table
> > > 3, page 22
> > > >
> > > > 3. The claim is made
> > > > (a) on the basis of analysis of Vygotsky's own autobiographies and
> > > bibliographies that he prepared himself:
> > > > - the author did not consider the work later published as Tool and
> > > Sign/Symbol among his major works
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > (b) on the basis of the language of the English text:
> > > > - the text could not have been finished by 1930, and, -- due to
> highly
> > > eclectic mixture of "reactological"/"reflexological" (Vygotsky's
> > > mechanistic period of "instrumental psychology" of 1920s) and, on the
> other
> > > hand, "systemic" notions (Vygotsky's period of 1930s, radically
> different
> > > from the period of the 1920s) -- the English text was somewhat
> mechanically
> > > augmented by somebody else with several paragraphs of the later period
> here
> > > and there
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > (c) on the basis of testimony of a witness, Russian text structure,
> > > specifically, numerous almost verbatim repetitions, and linguistic
> features
> > > of these repetitions:
> > > >
> > > > - the Russian text is a second translation from English and results
> from
> > > unprofessional editorial combination of the translated texts of two (or
> > > more) translators
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Last note: not all Vygotsky's works were finished and actually
> published
> > > by their author, which indeed happened from time to time in the
> history of
> > > science.
> > > >
> > > > However: the scope and the graveness of editorial interventions into
> the
> > > text raise pretty serious concerns about these texts authenticity and
> > > reliability.
> > > >
> > > > For discussion please see:
> > > >
> > > > van der Veer, R. & Yasnitsky, A. (2011). Vygotsky in English: What
> still
> > > needs to be done [html && pdf]. Integrative Psychological and
> Behavioral
> > > Science, 45(4), 475-493; DOI: 10.1007/s12124-011-9172-9
> > > >
> > > > http://www.springerlink.com/content/278j5025767m2263/fulltext.htmlOR
> > > >
> > > > http://www.springerlink.com/content/278j5025767m2263/fulltext.pdf
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > For examples of editorial interventions see:
> > > > Mecacci, L., & Yasnitsky, A. (2011). Editorial Changes in the Three
> > > Russian Editions of Vygotsky's Thinking and Speech (1934, 1956, 1982):
> > > Towards Authoritative and Ultimate English Translation of the Book.
> > > PsyAnima, Dubna Psychological Journal, 4(4), 159-187
> > > > http://www.psyanima.ru/journal/2011/4/2011n4a5/2011n4a5.pdf
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > AND
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Zavershneva, E., & Osipov, M. E. (2010). Osnovnye popravki k tekstu
> > > "Istoricheskij smysl psikhologicheskogo krizisa", opublikovannomu v
> > > sobranii sochinenij L.S. Vygotskogo (1982-1984) [Main editorial
> > > interventions in the text of "Historical meaning of psychological
> crisis"
> > > published in the collected works of L.S. Vygotsky (1982-1984)]. Voprosy
> > > psikhologii(1), 92-102.
> > > >
> > > > (This publication is unfortunately not available online either in
> > > English--no translation exists--or in the original, in Russian).
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > AY
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > P.S.
> > > > For discourse analysis of a repeated fragment in the Russian text
> see:
> > > > Yasnitsky, A. (2011). "I Wish You Knew From What Stray Matter...":
> > > Identifying the set of Vygotsky's major oeuvre and determining the
> > > chronology of their composition. PsyAnima, Dubna Psychological Journal,
> > > 4(4), 1-52 (In Russian)
> > > > http://www.psyanima.ru/journal/2011/4/2011n4a1/2011n4a1.pdf
> > > > Table 5, page 28
> > > >
> > > > For the representation of the structural features of the
> Russian/English
> > > texts and the schematic visualization of all repeated fragments see:
> > > > Kellogg, D. & Yasnitsky, A. (2011). The differences between the
> Russian
> > > and English texts of Tool and Symbol in Child Development.
> Supplementary
> > > and analytic materials. PsyAnima, Dubna Psychological Journal, 4(4),
> 98-158
> > > > http://www.psyanima.ru/journal/2011/4/2011n4a4/2011n4a4.pdf
> > > > Figures 1 and 2, pp. 101 and 102 respectively; the rest might be of
> > > interest, too.
> > > >
> > > > For a relatively brief summary of the findings on the chronology of
> > > Vygotsky's main works composition and their relative importance to the
> > > author see:
> > > > Yasnitsky, A. (2011). The Vygotsky That We (Do Not) Know: Vygotsky's
> > > Main Works and the Chronology of their Composition. PsyAnima, Dubna
> > > Psychological Journal, 4(4), 53-61
> > > > http://www.psyanima.ru/journal/2011/4/2011n4a1/2011n4a1.1.pdf
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > ________________________________
> > > > From: larry smolucha <lsmolucha@hotmail.com>
> > > > To: the_yasya@yahoo.com
> > > > Sent: Friday, March 23, 2012 12:00:36 AM
> > > > Subject: RE: [xmca] Special issue on Vygotsky's legacy:
> groundbreaking
> > > discoveries in PsyAnima, Dubna Psychological Journal!
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > In Mind and Society p.54 Figure 4 looks like this
> > > >
> > > > Mediated Activity
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Sign
> Tool
> > > >
> > > > Is this diagram in the Vygotsky text in Russian - in Tool and Symbol
> > > 1930?
> > > >
> > > > If so, is the claim being made that Vygotsky did not put this Figure
> in
> > > the text (or
> > > > use it as an illustration)?
> > > >
> > > > By the way it is my understanding that none of George Herbert Mead's
> > > books were
> > > > written by him, they are all lecture notes that his students took.
> > > >
> > > > It is not surprising to me that Vygotsky texts are not all in
> finished
> > > form as written by the
> > > > original author.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >> Date: Thu, 22 Mar 2012 20:25:31 -0700
> > > >> From: the_yasya@yahoo.com
> > > >> Subject: Re: [xmca] Special issue on Vygotsky's legacy:
> groundbreaking
> > > discoveries in PsyAnima, Dubna Psychological Journal!
> > > >> To: lchcmike@gmail.com; ablunden@mira.net; xmca@weber.ucsd.edu;
> > > xmca@weber.ucsd.edu
> > > >> CC:
> > > >>
> > > >> I guess presently the chapter can be found at scribd...
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >> Right, here it is:
> > >
> http://www.scribd.com/doc/79482780/Yasnitsky-2011-Lev-Vygotsky-Philologist-and-Defectologist-Sociointellectual-Biography
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >> AY
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >> ________________________________
> > > >> From: mike cole <lchcmike@gmail.com>
> > > >> To: ablunden@mira.net; "eXtended Mind, Culture, Activity" <
> > > xmca@weber.ucsd.edu>
> > > >> Sent: Thursday, March 22, 2012 11:12:06 PM
> > > >> Subject: Re: [xmca] Special issue on Vygotsky's legacy:
> groundbreaking
> > > discoveries in PsyAnima, Dubna Psychological Journal!
> > > >>
> > > >> How about sending around a manuscript of your article, Anton? So
> that
> > > the
> > > >> ideas get wide dissemination and discussion.
> > > >>
> > > >> mike
> > > >>
> > > >> On Thu, Mar 22, 2012 at 7:41 PM, Andy Blunden <ablunden@mira.net>
> > > wrote:
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >>> OK, so let me summarise, Anton.
> > > >>> (1) You say that the central place of mediation by symbols and
> tools in
> > > >>> the development of human consciousness is something introduced by
> some
> > > >>> anonymous uncredited writer.
> > > >>> (2) I am well aware of the notions of unit of analysis, situation
> and
> > > >>> Gestalt used by the Gestaltists you mention and I find them quite
> > > inferior
> > > >>> to the notions I have learnt from who I thought was Vygotsky, so I
> have
> > > >>> another anonymous uncredited writer to thank for this.
> > > >>> (3) If you are saying that Vygotsky did not read German philosophy
> till
> > > >>> near the end of his life if at all, I am inclined to agree.
> Whoever it
> > > was
> > > >>> that I have been reading seem to have brilliantly extracted these
> > > insights
> > > >>> from reading Marx and discussions with 20th century writers.
> > > >>>
> > > >>> Andy
> > > >>> Anton Yasnitsky wrote:
> > > >>>
> > > >>>
> > > >>>> Let's put somewhat aside the question if anybody can actually
> > > *discover*
> > > >>>> an *idea* or a *concept*: I tend to think that we rather
> *construct*
> > > and
> > > >>>> *introduce* them, like any other neologisms. Anyway, this is just
> a
> > > remark
> > > >>>> aside, let's get straight to the matter.
> > > >>>>
> > > >>>> I need to think if Vygotsky in fact ever said anything on
> "mediated
> > > >>>> action" (if anybody is aware of specific locus in any Vygotsky's
> text
> > > where
> > > >>>> he actually says "mediated action" I would greatly appreciate the
> > > reference
> > > >>>> to the source).
> > > >>>> As to the other two, I am inclined to look towards the
> Gestaltists,
> > > >>>> primarily Kurt Koffka along with such peripheral participants and
> > > >>>> fellow-tavellers of Gestaltpsychologie movement as Kurt Lewin and
> Kurt
> > > >>>> Goldstein as the guys who approximately one hundred seventeen
> times
> > > better
> > > >>>> and way earlier expressed pretty much the same ideas, but in
> slightly
> > > >>>> different terms than Vygotsky vaguely did with his "unit of
> analysis"
> > > and
> > > >>>> "social situation of development". I am not sure, but I guess I
> > > briefly
> > > >>>> suggested this here:
> > > >>>>
> > > >>>> Yasnitsky, A. (2011). Lev Vygotsky: Philologist and
> Defectologist, A
> > > >>>> Socio-intellectual Biography. In Pickren, W., Dewsbury, D., &
> > > Wertheimer,
> > > >>>> M. (Eds.). Portraits of Pioneers in Developmental Psychology,
> (Vol.
> > > 7, pp.
> > > >>>> 109-134).
> > > >>>>
> > > >>>> Vygotsky, in turn, only started learning from the great Germans
> > > >>>> (Americans, Jews, etc.) when he died.
> > > >>>> Unfortunately, though, I am not so sure that these ideas have in
> fact
> > > >>>> revolutionized psychology, at least so as long as mainstream
> (i.e.,
> > > >>>> empirical, North American, ahistorical, non-cumulative,
> reductionist,
> > > etc.)
> > > >>>> psychology is concerned.
> > > >>>>
> > > >>>> Anton
> > > >>>>
> > > >>>> ------------------------------**------------------------------**
> > > >>>> ------------
> > > >>>> *From:* Andy Blunden <ablunden@mira.net>
> > > >>>> *To:* Anton Yasnitsky <the_yasya@yahoo.com>; "eXtended Mind,
> Culture,
> > > >>>> Activity" <xmca@weber.ucsd.edu>
> > > >>>> *Sent:* Thursday, March 22, 2012 8:43:14 PM
> > > >>>> *Subject:* Re: [xmca] Special issue on Vygotsky's legacy:
> > > groudbreaking
> > > >>>> discoveries in PsyAnima, Dubna Psychological Journal!
> > > >>>>
> > > >>>> So Anton, to whom should we be attributing ideas like "unit of
> > > >>>> analysis", "social situation of development", "mediated action"
> which
> > > >>>> have revolutionised psychology, and we have been thinking were
> > > >>>> discoveries of Vygotsky? Is there someone else who should be
> credited?
> > > >>>>
> > > >>>> Andy
> > > >>>>
> > > >>>> Anton Yasnitsky wrote:
> > > >>>>
> > > >>>>> Indeed, thanks a lot to all those researchers, editors,
> translators,
> > > >>>>>
> > > >>>> and other volunteers and enthusiasts who made this -- and will
> make
> > > several
> > > >>>> forthcoming -- journal issues possible!!
> > > >>>>
> > > >>>>> As to Vygotsky's archives, well, it is a little bit different.
> For
> > > >>>>>
> > > >>>> instance, as one paper argues, on the contrary, archival
> materials of
> > > one
> > > >>>> of arguably Vygotsky's works were NOT preserved, and the Russian
> text
> > > of
> > > >>>> the work was blatantly retranslated (or just translated) into
> Russian
> > > from
> > > >>>> English (this was a much later copy that actually WAS preserved,
> or,
> > > for
> > > >>>> that matter, was NOT preserved either, but was "reconstructed"
> some
> > > time in
> > > >>>> the 1950s or 1960s).
> > > >>>>
> > > >>>>> Yet again, as we know, the manuscript of yet another work,
> commonly
> > > >>>>>
> > > >>>> believed to be a central work of Vygotsky, was NOT preserved
> either.
> > > The
> > > >>>> same holds for yet another allegedly most important Vygotsky's
> book.
> > > >>>>
> > > >>>>> So, in sum, I would not be that thankful to those who have been
> in
> > > >>>>>
> > > >>>> charge of keeping Vygotsky's archival stuff alive and, for that
> > > matter,
> > > >>>> accessible.
> > > >>>>
> > > >>>>> Anton
> > > >>>>>
> > > >>>>>
> > > >>>>>
> > > >>>>> ______________________________**__
> > > >>>>> From: mike cole <lchcmike@gmail.com <mailto:lchcmike@gmail.com
> <lchcmike@gmail.com>
> > > >>
> > > >>>>> To: Anton Yasnitsky <the_yasya@yahoo.com <mailto:
> the_yasya@yahoo.com<the_yasya@yahoo.com>
> > > >>;
> > > >>>>>
> > > >>>> "eXtended Mind, Culture, Activity" <xmca@weber.ucsd.edu <mailto:
> > > >>>> xmca@weber.ucsd.edu>>
> > > >>>>
> > > >>>>> Cc: Alexey Kuznetsov <alexey.math@gmail.com <mailto:
> > > >>>>>
> > > >>>> alexey.math@gmail.com>**>; Ющенкова Дарья Викторовна <
> > > >>>> dashulya-psy@mail.ru <mailto:dashulya-psy@mail.ru<
> dashulya-psy@mail.ru>>>**;
> > > Anton Yasnitsky <
> > > >>>> anton.yasnitsky@gmail.com <mailto:anton.yasnitsky@gmail.
> **com<anton.yasnitsky@gmail.**com>
> > > <anton.yasnitsky@gmail.com>>>;
> > > >>>> Мещеряков Борис Гурьевич <borlogic@yahoo.com <
> > > mailto:borlogic@yahoo.com <borlogic@yahoo.com>>>
> > > >>>>
> > > >>>>> Sent: Wednesday, March 21, 2012 11:04:02 AM
> > > >>>>> Subject: Re: [xmca] Special issue on Vygotsky's legacy:
> groudbreaking
> > > >>>>>
> > > >>>> discoveries in PsyAnima, Dubna Psychological Journal!
> > > >>>>
> > > >>>>> Thanks to all who carried out this work. Thanks also to those who
> > > kept
> > > >>>>>
> > > >>>> the archival materials alive.
> > > >>>>
> > > >>>>> mike
> > > >>>>>
> > > >>>>>
> > > >>>>>
> > > >>>>> 2012/3/21 Anton Yasnitsky <the_yasya@yahoo.com <mailto:
> > > >>>>>
> > > >>>> the_yasya@yahoo.com>>
> > > >>>>
> > > >>>>> A special issue of PsyAnima, Dubna Psychological issue has been
> > > >>>>>
> > > >>>> released lately. This thematic multilingual issue combined a few
> > > studies on
> > > >>>> textology, chronology and historical development of Vygotsky's
> works.
> > > >>>> Several highlights include:
> > > >>>>
> > > >>>>>>> - first ever rigorous historical reconstruction of the list of
> > > >>>>>>>
> > > >>>> Vygotsky's major works and the chronology of their composition
> > > >>>>
> > > >>>>>> - the sensational finding: Vygotsky never wrote the "History of
> > > >>>>>>
> > > >>>> development of higher mental (psychological) functions" and "Tool
> and
> > > >>>> symbol (sign)" the way we know these texts in Russian now
> > > >>>>
> > > >>>>>> - a discussion of Vygotsky's " Tool and Sign" (alias "Tool and
> > > Sign"),
> > > >>>>>>
> > > >>>> i.e. the first half of what we all know as "Mind and Society"
> (1978,
> > > >>>> chapters 1-4): was Russian text translated from the English one,
> or
> > > the
> > > >>>> English text translated from Russian one, or both?
> > > >>>>
> > > >>>>>> - numerous fakes and falsifications in Vygotsky's various
> published
> > > >>>>>>
> > > >>>> works & the problem of reliability: is it the Vygotsky that we
> know or
> > > >>>> rather -- the Vygotsky that we DO NOT know?
> > > >>>>
> > > >>>>>> - full list of editorial interventions in the three editions of
> > > >>>>>>
> > > >>>> Vygotsky's "Thinking and speech" of 1934, 1956, & 1982
> > > >>>>
> > > >>>>>> - a historical, first ever republication of early Vygotsky's
> > > articles
> > > >>>>>>
> > > >>>> on art, theatre and literature of 1922: the unknown Vygotsky of
> his
> > > Gomel'
> > > >>>> period (1917-1924)
> > > >>>>
> > > >>>>>> All these and some other materials, in Russian, English,
> Portuguese,
> > > >>>>>>
> > > >>>> and French are available FREE, 24/7 online @
> > > http://www.psyanima.ru/**
> > > >>>> journal/2011/4/index.php<
> > > http://www.psyanima.ru/journal/2011/4/index.php>
> > > >>>>
> > > >>>>>> The editorial team are presently considering publishing a
> follow-up
> > > >>>>>>
> > > >>>> issue of the journal that would build on these studies, so any
> > > >>>>
> > > >>>>>> queries, comments, suggestions, and even paper proposals (in
> > > virtually
> > > >>>>>>
> > > >>>> any language and of virtually any length) will be greatly
> appreciated!
> > > >>>>
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- Re: [xmca] Special issue on Vygotsky's legacy: groudbreaking discoveries in PsyAnima, Dubna Psychological Journal!
- From: mike cole <lchcmike@gmail.com>
- Re: [xmca] Special issue on Vygotsky's legacy: groudbreaking discoveries in PsyAnima, Dubna Psychological Journal!
- From: Anton Yasnitsky <the_yasya@yahoo.com>
- Re: [xmca] Special issue on Vygotsky's legacy: groudbreaking discoveries in PsyAnima, Dubna Psychological Journal!
- From: Andy Blunden <ablunden@mira.net>
- Re: [xmca] Special issue on Vygotsky's legacy: groundbreaking discoveries in PsyAnima, Dubna Psychological Journal!
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- Re: [xmca] Special issue on Vygotsky's legacy: groundbreaking discoveries in PsyAnima, Dubna Psychological Journal!
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- Re: [xmca] Special issue on Vygotsky's legacy: groundbreaking discoveries in PsyAnima, Dubna Psychological Journal!
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- Re: [xmca] Special issue on Vygotsky's legacy: groundbreaking discoveries in PsyAnima, Dubna Psychological Journal (link reminder)!
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- Re: [xmca] Special issue on Vygotsky's legacy: groundbreaking discoveries in PsyAnima, Dubna Psychological Journal (just choose your right ISM and become and IST)!
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