Hi, here is attached the Anton's pdf from Scribd: http://www.scribd.com/doc/79482780/Yasnitsky-2011-Lev-Vygotsky-Philologist-and-Defectologist-Sociointellectual-Biography BestAchilles > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > *From:* mike cole <lchcmike@gmail.com> > > *To:* ablunden@mira.net; "eXtended Mind, Culture, Activity" > > <xmca@weber.ucsd.edu> > > *Sent:* Thursday, March 22, 2012 11:12:06 PM > > *Subject:* Re: [xmca] Special issue on Vygotsky's legacy: > > groundbreaking discoveries in PsyAnima, Dubna Psychological Journal! > > > > How about sending around a manuscript of your article, Anton? So that the > > ideas get wide dissemination and discussion. > > > > mike > > > > On Thu, Mar 22, 2012 at 7:41 PM, Andy Blunden <ablunden@mira.net > > <mailto:ablunden@mira.net>> wrote: > > > > > OK, so let me summarise, Anton. > > > (1) You say that the central place of mediation by symbols and tools in > > > the development of human consciousness is something introduced by some > > > anonymous uncredited writer. > > > (2) I am well aware of the notions of unit of analysis, situation and > > > Gestalt used by the Gestaltists you mention and I find them quite > > inferior > > > to the notions I have learnt from who I thought was Vygotsky, so I have > > > another anonymous uncredited writer to thank for this. > > > (3) If you are saying that Vygotsky did not read German philosophy till > > > near the end of his life if at all, I am inclined to agree. Whoever > > it was > > > that I have been reading seem to have brilliantly extracted these > > insights > > > from reading Marx and discussions with 20th century writers. > > > > > > Andy > > > Anton Yasnitsky wrote: > > > > > >> Let's put somewhat aside the question if anybody can actually > > *discover* > > >> an *idea* or a *concept*: I tend to think that we rather > > *construct* and > > >> *introduce* them, like any other neologisms. Anyway, this is just a > > remark > > >> aside, let's get straight to the matter. > > >> > > >> I need to think if Vygotsky in fact ever said anything on "mediated > > >> action" (if anybody is aware of specific locus in any Vygotsky's > > text where > > >> he actually says "mediated action" I would greatly appreciate the > > reference > > >> to the source). > > >> As to the other two, I am inclined to look towards the Gestaltists, > > >> primarily Kurt Koffka along with such peripheral participants and > > >> fellow-tavellers of Gestaltpsychologie movement as Kurt Lewin and Kurt > > >> Goldstein as the guys who approximately one hundred seventeen times > > better > > >> and way earlier expressed pretty much the same ideas, but in slightly > > >> different terms than Vygotsky vaguely did with his "unit of > > analysis" and > > >> "social situation of development". I am not sure, but I guess I > > briefly > > >> suggested this here: > > >> > > >> Yasnitsky, A. (2011). Lev Vygotsky: Philologist and Defectologist, A > > >> Socio-intellectual Biography. In Pickren, W., Dewsbury, D., & > > Wertheimer, > > >> M. (Eds.). Portraits of Pioneers in Developmental Psychology, (Vol. > > 7, pp. > > >> 109-134). > > >> > > >> Vygotsky, in turn, only started learning from the great Germans > > >> (Americans, Jews, etc.) when he died. > > >> Unfortunately, though, I am not so sure that these ideas have in fact > > >> revolutionized psychology, at least so as long as mainstream (i.e., > > >> empirical, North American, ahistorical, non-cumulative, > > reductionist, etc.) > > >> psychology is concerned. > > >> > > >> Anton > > >> > > >> ------------------------------**------------------------------** > > >> ------------ > > >> *From:* Andy Blunden <ablunden@mira.net <mailto:ablunden@mira.net>> > > >> *To:* Anton Yasnitsky <the_yasya@yahoo.com > > <mailto:the_yasya@yahoo.com>>; "eXtended Mind, Culture, > > >> Activity" <xmca@weber.ucsd.edu <mailto:xmca@weber.ucsd.edu>> > > >> *Sent:* Thursday, March 22, 2012 8:43:14 PM > > >> *Subject:* Re: [xmca] Special issue on Vygotsky's legacy: groudbreaking > > >> discoveries in PsyAnima, Dubna Psychological Journal! > > >> > > >> So Anton, to whom should we be attributing ideas like "unit of > > >> analysis", "social situation of development", "mediated action" which > > >> have revolutionised psychology, and we have been thinking were > > >> discoveries of Vygotsky? Is there someone else who should be credited? > > >> > > >> Andy > > >> > > >> Anton Yasnitsky wrote: > > >> > Indeed, thanks a lot to all those researchers, editors, translators, > > >> and other volunteers and enthusiasts who made this -- and will make > > several > > >> forthcoming -- journal issues possible!! > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > As to Vygotsky's archives, well, it is a little bit different. For > > >> instance, as one paper argues, on the contrary, archival materials > > of one > > >> of arguably Vygotsky's works were NOT preserved, and the Russian > > text of > > >> the work was blatantly retranslated (or just translated) into > > Russian from > > >> English (this was a much later copy that actually WAS preserved, > > or, for > > >> that matter, was NOT preserved either, but was "reconstructed" some > > time in > > >> the 1950s or 1960s). > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > Yet again, as we know, the manuscript of yet another work, commonly > > >> believed to be a central work of Vygotsky, was NOT preserved > > either. The > > >> same holds for yet another allegedly most important Vygotsky's book. > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > So, in sum, I would not be that thankful to those who have been in > > >> charge of keeping Vygotsky's archival stuff alive and, for that > > matter, > > >> accessible. > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > Anton > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > ______________________________**__ > > >> > From: mike cole <lchcmike@gmail.com <mailto:lchcmike@gmail.com> > > <mailto:lchcmike@gmail.com <mailto:lchcmike@gmail.com>>> > > >> > To: Anton Yasnitsky <the_yasya@yahoo.com > > <mailto:the_yasya@yahoo.com> <mailto:the_yasya@yahoo.com > > <mailto:the_yasya@yahoo.com>>>; > > >> "eXtended Mind, Culture, Activity" <xmca@weber.ucsd.edu > > <mailto:xmca@weber.ucsd.edu> <mailto: > > >> xmca@weber.ucsd.edu <mailto:xmca@weber.ucsd.edu>>> > > >> > Cc: Alexey Kuznetsov <alexey.math@gmail.com > > <mailto:alexey.math@gmail.com> <mailto: > > >> alexey.math@gmail.com <mailto:alexey.math@gmail.com>>**>; Ющенкова > > Дарья Викторовна < > > >> dashulya-psy@mail.ru <mailto:dashulya-psy@mail.ru> > > <mailto:dashulya-psy@mail.ru <mailto:dashulya-psy@mail.ru>>>**; Anton > > Yasnitsky < > > >> anton.yasnitsky@gmail.com <mailto:anton.yasnitsky@gmail.com> > > <mailto:anton.yasnitsky@gmail.**com<anton.yasnitsky@gmail.com > > <mailto:anton.yasnitsky@gmail.com>>>>; > > >> Мещеряков Борис Гурьевич <borlogic@yahoo.com > > <mailto:borlogic@yahoo.com> <mailto:borlogic@yahoo.com > > <mailto:borlogic@yahoo.com>>> > > >> > Sent: Wednesday, March 21, 2012 11:04:02 AM > > >> > Subject: Re: [xmca] Special issue on Vygotsky's legacy: groudbreaking > > >> discoveries in PsyAnima, Dubna Psychological Journal! > > >> > > > > >> > Thanks to all who carried out this work. Thanks also to those who > > kept > > >> the archival materials alive. > > >> > mike > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > 2012/3/21 Anton Yasnitsky <the_yasya@yahoo.com > > <mailto:the_yasya@yahoo.com> <mailto: > > >> the_yasya@yahoo.com <mailto:the_yasya@yahoo.com>>> > > >> > > > >> > A special issue of PsyAnima, Dubna Psychological issue has been > > >> released lately. This thematic multilingual issue combined a few > > studies on > > >> textology, chronology and historical development of Vygotsky's works. > > >> Several highlights include: > > >> > >> - first ever rigorous historical reconstruction of the list of > > >> Vygotsky's major works and the chronology of their composition > > >> >> > > >> >> - the sensational finding: Vygotsky never wrote the "History of > > >> development of higher mental (psychological) functions" and "Tool and > > >> symbol (sign)" the way we know these texts in Russian now > > >> >> > > >> >> - a discussion of Vygotsky's " Tool and Sign" (alias "Tool and > > Sign"), > > >> i.e. the first half of what we all know as "Mind and Society" (1978, > > >> chapters 1-4): was Russian text translated from the English one, or the > > >> English text translated from Russian one, or both? > > >> >> > > >> >> - numerous fakes and falsifications in Vygotsky's various published > > >> works & the problem of reliability: is it the Vygotsky that we know or > > >> rather -- the Vygotsky that we DO NOT know? > > >> >> > > >> >> - full list of editorial interventions in the three editions of > > >> Vygotsky's "Thinking and speech" of 1934, 1956, & 1982 > > >> >> > > >> >> - a historical, first ever republication of early Vygotsky's > > articles > > >> on art, theatre and literature of 1922: the unknown Vygotsky of his > > Gomel' > > >> period (1917-1924) > > >> >> > > >> >> All these and some other materials, in Russian, English, Portuguese, > > >> and French are available FREE, 24/7 online @ http://www.psyanima.ru/** > > >> > > journal/2011/4/index.php<http://www.psyanima.ru/journal/2011/4/index.php> > > >> >> > > >> >> The editorial team are presently considering publishing a follow-up > > >> issue of the journal that would build on these studies, so any > > >> >> queries, comments, suggestions, and even paper proposals (in > > virtually > > >> any language and of virtually any length) will be greatly appreciated! > > >> >> ______________________________**____________ > > >> >> _____ > > >> >> xmca mailing list > > >> >> xmca@weber.ucsd.edu <mailto:xmca@weber.ucsd.edu> > > <mailto:xmca@weber.ucsd.edu <mailto:xmca@weber.ucsd.edu>> > > >> >> > > http://dss.ucsd.edu/mailman/**listinfo/xmca<http://dss.ucsd.edu/mailman/listinfo/xmca> > > >> >> > > >> >> > ______________________________**____________ > > >> > _____ > > >> > xmca mailing list > > >> > xmca@weber.ucsd.edu <mailto:xmca@weber.ucsd.edu> > > <mailto:xmca@weber.ucsd.edu <mailto:xmca@weber.ucsd.edu>> > > >> > > > http://dss.ucsd.edu/mailman/**listinfo/xmca<http://dss.ucsd.edu/mailman/listinfo/xmca> > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> -- > > >> ------------------------------**------------------------------** > > >> ------------ > > >> *Andy Blunden* > > >> Joint Editor MCA: > > http://www.tandfonline.com/**toc/hmca20/18/1<http://www.tandfonline.com/toc/hmca20/18/1> > > >> Home Page: http://home.mira.net/~andy/ > > <http://home.mira.net/%7Eandy/> <http://home.mira.net/%7Eandy/**> > > >> Book: > > http://www.amazon.com/gp/**product/1608461459/<http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/1608461459/> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > > -- > > > ------------------------------**------------------------------** > > > ------------ > > > *Andy Blunden* > > > Joint Editor MCA: > > http://www.tandfonline.com/**toc/hmca20/18/1<http://www.tandfonline.com/toc/hmca20/18/1> > > > Home Page: http://home.mira.net/~andy/ <http://home.mira.net/%7Eandy/> > > > Book: > > http://www.amazon.com/gp/**product/1608461459/<http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/1608461459/> > > > > > > ______________________________**____________ > > > _____ > > > xmca mailing list > > > xmca@weber.ucsd.edu <mailto:xmca@weber.ucsd.edu> > > > > > http://dss.ucsd.edu/mailman/**listinfo/xmca<http://dss.ucsd.edu/mailman/listinfo/xmca> > > > > > __________________________________________ > > _____ > > xmca mailing list > > xmca@weber.ucsd.edu <mailto:xmca@weber.ucsd.edu> > > http://dss.ucsd.edu/mailman/listinfo/xmca > > > > > > -- > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > *Andy Blunden* > Joint Editor MCA: http://www.tandfonline.com/toc/hmca20/18/1 > Home Page: http://home.mira.net/~andy/ > Book: http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/1608461459/ > > __________________________________________ > _____ > xmca mailing list > xmca@weber.ucsd.edu > http://dss.ucsd.edu/mailman/listinfo/xmca
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