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Hi Robert

Last night I forwarded Peter's whole message (link+download) to Helena ; don't worry ! Haydi



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From: Robert Lake <boblake@georgiasouthern.edu>
To: "eXtended Mind, Culture, Activity" <xmca@weber.ucsd.edu>
Sent: Tuesday, 1 November 2011, 16:04:54
Subject: Re: [xmca] Jones on Learning under capitalism


Hi Peter!

Can you provide a link to this chapter?


Robert



On Tue, Nov 1, 2011 at 3:46 PM, Helena Worthen

<helena.worthen@berkeley.edu>wrote:


> Robert, do you have the link for the Smagorinsky article?

>

> Helena

>

>

> Helena Worthen

> helena.worthen@berkeley.edu

> 21 San Mateo Road

> Berkeley, CA 94707

> Visiting Scholar, UCB Center for Labor Research and Education

> 510-828-2745

>

> On Nov 1, 2011, at 11:13 AM, Robert Lake wrote:

>

> > *Hi Everyone,*

> > *Don't forget this from  Peter  Smagorinsky (See below).*

> > *

> > *

> > *Robert Lake*

> >

> > In case anyone's interested, I coauthored a book chapter on Freire and

> > Vygotsky. In my view, they're a hard pair to match, as we outline in the

> > chapter. I don't have the final pdf but am attaching the last version I

> > have of the manuscript during editing.

> > The reference:

> > Souto-Manning, M., & Smagorinsky, P. (2010). Freire, Vygotsky, and social

> > justice theories in English education. In sj Miller & D. Kirkland (Eds.),

> > Change matters: Critical essays on moving social justice research from

> > theory to policy (pp. 41-51). New York: Peter Lang.

> >

> > On Tue, Nov 1, 2011 at 11:53 AM, Tony Whitson <twhitson@udel.edu> wrote:

> >

> >> I don't know of anyone who's analyzed Freire in terms of CHAT, but it

> >> would really interesting.

> >>

> >> In Freire's alphabetization/**conscientization work with adult peasants,

> >> the motivation for the activity is not literacy itself. Literacy is

> >> attained as a means for conducting the activity that is constructed in

> >> pursuit of motivating objects that are identified by the learners

> >> themselve; and there is a systematic use of written artefacts mediating

> the

> >> activity.

> >>

> >> On Tue, 1 Nov 2011, Silvio Marquardt wrote:

> >>

> >> Dear Ana,

> >>>

> >>

> >> Could you "situate" Freire`s statement within the activity system ?

> >> "Critical reading" as "Activity" seems to be something worth trying.

> >> How far is the "Freire-CHAT" debate up to now ?

> >>

> >> Yours, Silvio

> >>

> >> ______________________________**__

> >> From: Ana Paula B. R. Cortez <apbrcortez@yahoo.com.br>

> >> To: Haydi Zulfei <haydizulfei@rocketmail.com>; "eXtended Mind, Culture,

> >> Activity" <xmca@weber.ucsd.edu>

> >> Sent: Wednesday, 2 November 2011 12:10 AM

> >> Subject: Re: [xmca] Jones on Learning under capitalism

> >>

> >> Hello, everyone!

> >>

> >> Here is Freire's definition of reading, in "Carta de Paulo Freire aos

> >> professores" (Freire's letter to teachers - In Portuguese at:

> >> http://www.scielo.br/scielo.**php?script=sci_arttext&pid=**

> >> S0103-40142001000200013<

> http://www.scielo.br/scielo.php?script=sci_arttext&pid=S0103-40142001000200013

> >

> >> )

> >>

> >>

> >> "Ler é uma operação inteligente,    difícil, exigente, mas gratificante.

> >> Ninguém lê ou estuda    autenticamente se não assume, diante do texto

> ou do

> >> objeto da curiosidade    a forma crítica de ser ou de estar sendo

> sujeito

> >> da curiosidade, sujeito    da leitura, sujeito do processo de conhecer

> em

> >> que se acha. Ler é procurar    buscar criar a compreensão do lido; daí,

> >> entre outros pontos fundamentais,    a importância do ensino correto da

> >> leitura e da escrita. É que    ensinar a ler é engajar-se numa

> experiência

> >> criativa em torno da compreensão. Da compreensão e da comunicação."

> >>

> >> My free translation of the extract:

> >>

> >>

> >> "Reading is an intelligent, difficult, demanding,  but gratifying

> >> operation. Nobody authentically reads or studies if, facing the text or

> the

> >> object of his/her curiosity, he/she doesn't take a critical stance as

> the

> >> subject of curiosity, the subject of reading, the subject of the

> process of

> >> knowing where he/she is. Reading is to try to create the understanding

> of

> >> what's being read; therefore, among other crucial points, there lies the

> >> importance of teaching reading and writing in a correct way. Teaching

> how

> >> to read means engaging in a creative experience revolving understanding.

> >> Understanding and communication."

> >>

> >> Well, I don't think there is anything else to comment about it.

> >> Enjoy!

> >> Ana Paula Cortez

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> >>

> >>

> >

> >

> > --

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> > *Assistant Professor

> > Social Foundations of Education

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-- 

*Robert Lake  Ed.D.

*Assistant Professor

Social Foundations of Education

Dept. of Curriculum, Foundations, and Reading

Georgia Southern University

P. O. Box 8144

Phone: (912) 478-5125

Fax: (912) 478-5382

Statesboro, GA  30460


*Democracy must be born anew in every generation, and education is its

midwife.*

*-*John Dewey.

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