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Re: [xmca] Jones on Learning under capitalism
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- Subject: Re: [xmca] Jones on Learning under capitalism
- From: Silvio Marquardt <marquardtsilvio@yahoo.com>
- Date: Tue, 1 Nov 2011 09:20:11 -0700 (PDT)
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I don`t know for sure myself.
I think that, eventually, Freire`s Culture Circles could be considered a kind of collective literacy activity as a first step towards engaging in artefacts mediating activity.
What do you think ?
Sil
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I don't know of anyone who's analyzed Freire in terms of CHAT, but it would really interesting.
In Freire's alphabetization/conscientization work with adult peasants, the motivation for the activity is not literacy itself. Literacy is attained as a means for conducting the activity that is constructed in pursuit of motivating objects that are identified by the learners themselve; and there is a systematic use of written artefacts mediating the activity.
On Tue, 1 Nov 2011, Silvio Marquardt wrote:
> Dear Ana,
Could you "situate" Freire`s statement within the activity system ?
"Critical reading" as "Activity" seems to be something worth trying.
How far is the "Freire-CHAT" debate up to now ?
Yours, Silvio
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From: Ana Paula B. R. Cortez <apbrcortez@yahoo.com.br>
To: Haydi Zulfei <haydizulfei@rocketmail.com>; "eXtended Mind, Culture, Activity" <xmca@weber.ucsd.edu>
Sent: Wednesday, 2 November 2011 12:10 AM
Subject: Re: [xmca] Jones on Learning under capitalism
Hello, everyone!
Here is Freire's definition of reading, in "Carta de Paulo Freire aos professores" (Freire's letter to teachers - In Portuguese at: http://www.scielo.br/scielo.php?script=sci_arttext&pid=S0103-40142001000200013)
"Ler é uma operação inteligente, difícil, exigente, mas gratificante. Ninguém lê ou estuda autenticamente se não assume, diante do texto ou do objeto da curiosidade a forma crítica de ser ou de estar sendo sujeito da curiosidade, sujeito da leitura, sujeito do processo de conhecer em que se acha. Ler é procurar buscar criar a compreensão do lido; daí, entre outros pontos fundamentais, a importância do ensino correto da leitura e da escrita. É que ensinar a ler é engajar-se numa experiência criativa em torno da compreensão. Da compreensão e da comunicação."
My free translation of the extract:
"Reading is an intelligent, difficult, demanding, but gratifying operation. Nobody authentically reads or studies if, facing the text or the object of his/her curiosity, he/she doesn't take a critical stance as the subject of curiosity, the subject of reading, the subject of the process of knowing where he/she is. Reading is to try to create the understanding of what's being read; therefore, among other crucial points, there lies the importance of teaching reading and writing in a correct way. Teaching how to read means engaging in a creative experience revolving understanding. Understanding and communication."
Well, I don't think there is anything else to comment about it.
Enjoy!
Ana Paula Cortez
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