Re: [xmca] Vygotsky Circle as a Personal Network of Scholars: Restoring Connections Between People and Ideas

[mike cole <lchcmike@gmail.com>]

That is what it means to be socially motivated, Anton! Nothing personal
about it except for the targets who might take it personally.

Citation patterns from about 1948-1956-mid 1960's might be interesting.
mike

On Tue, Jun 14, 2011 at 10:21 AM, Anton Yasnitsky <the_yasya@yahoo.com>wrote:

> Not only were they socially motivated, Mike, but also, as I argue, directed
> against not Vygotsky, dead by then, but against his socially successful
> former
> associates: Luria, Zankov, Elkonin et al.
>
> AY
>
>
>
> ----- Original Message ----
> From: mike cole <lchcmike@gmail.com>
> To: "eXtended Mind, Culture, Activity" <xmca@weber.ucsd.edu>
> Sent: Tue, June 14, 2011 1:00:15 PM
> Subject: Re: [xmca] Vygotsky Circle as a Personal Network of Scholars:
> Restoring
> Connections Between People and Ideas
>
> Yes, Anton, I think it is safe to say that those critiques were socially
> motivated!
> Thanks for all the new materials.
> mike
>
> On Tue, Jun 14, 2011 at 6:50 AM, Anton Yasnitsky <the_yasya@yahoo.com
> >wrote:
>
> > P.S. Oh, yes, speaking of Vygotsky's followers and their integrative
> > theory.
> >
> >
> > I have just been informed that the previously announced paper on Vygotsky
> > Circle
> > has just been released as an Online First publication, see:
> >
> > Yasnitsky, A. (2011). Vygotsky Circle as a Personal Network of Scholars:
> > Restoring Connections Between People and Ideas. Integrative Psychological
> > and
> > Behavioral Science; DOI: 10.1007/s12124-011-9168-5
> > http://www.springerlink.com/content/b34101p383588v95/
> >
> > The paper is quite long and fairly detailed, but the pictures, all five
> of
> > them,
> > are really good and particularly loveable! Also, the Appendix stands out,
> I
> > guess... :)
> >
> > I believe this is the first ever study of its kind that systematically
> > investigates the inter- and intra-group dynamics within the entire group
> of
> > scholars around Vygotsky during his lifetime and after his death. The
> > rationale
> > for such study was provided somewhere else: please see discussion of the
> > urgent
> > need in understanding collaborative and experimental aspects of Vygotsky
> &
> > Co's
> > integrative science of cultural and biosocial development of mind, brain,
> > and
> > behaviour, closer to the end of the paper under the section "Programmatic
> > Conclusion: What Needs to Be Done and How?" in
> >
> > van der Veer, R. & Yasnitsky, A. (2011). Vygotsky in English: What Still
> > Needs
> > to Be Done. Integrative Psychological and Behavioral Science; DOI:
> > 10.1007/s12124-011-9172-9 @
> > http://www.springerlink.com/content/278j5025767m2263/
> >
> >
> > AY
> >
> >
> >
> > ----- Original Message ----
> > From: Anton Yasnitsky <the_yasya@yahoo.com>
> > To: "eXtended Mind, Culture, Activity" <xmca@weber.ucsd.edu>
> > Sent: Tue, June 14, 2011 8:57:56 AM
> > Subject: Re: [xmca] help-me -- Rudneva, E. I. (1937/2000). Vygotsky's
> > Pedological Distortions
> >
> > No problem.
> >
> >
> > Speaking of Vygotsky "falling out of favor in Moscow", one needs to
> > understand
> > that, quite contrary to traditional fairly simplistic accounts, 1934-1936
> > was
> > truly a "Golden Age" for -- dead by   then -- Vygotsky and his -- still
> > alive --
> >
> > followers: lots of stuff, including Vygotsky's stuff, was published by
> the
> > group, for Vygotsky--posthumously. The discussion of this "Golden Age"
> > first
> > appears, I believe, in Yasnitsky, A. (2011). Lev Vygotsky: Philologist
> and
> > Defectologist, A Socio-intellectual Biography. In Pickren, W., Dewsbury,
> > D., &
> > Wertheimer, M. (Eds.). Portraits of Pioneers in Developmental Psychology,
> > vol.
> > VII, but I am not so sure about that.
> >
> > Thus, Rudneva's critique, as well as the critique of several other
> > individuals
> > that appears to have been directed at Vygotsky, despite appearance quite
> > likely
> > targeted not the dead man, but his socially and academically successful
> > followers. Among others, most often several names were pronounced, such
> as
> > Luria, Zankov, Elkonin, Shif, and Leontiev. Thus, in other words, we do
> not
> > truly know what motivated these critiques and how they really affected
> the
> > carreers and, generally, the course of events back there and then, but
> > chances
> > are the critique was originally meant by their authors much more socially
> > than
> > theoretically. By the way, for other critical publications of that time
> > please
> > see a marvelous issue of the Journal of Russian and East European
> > Psychology
> > that Rene van der Veer published more than a decade ago (Volume 38,
> Number
> > 6 /
> > November-December 2000 of Journal of Russian and East European
> Psychology):
> >
> >
> >
> http://mesharpe.metapress.com/openurl.asp?genre=issue&issn=1061-0405&volume=38&issue=6
> >6
> >
> > OR      http://mesharpe.metapress.com/link.asp?id=n73424205223 (both
> links
> > seem to be good, I just am not sure which one might work this time,
> > luckily,
> > both)
> >
> > FYI, all materials that came out in this journal have been digitized and
> > from
> > January 2011 are accessible/downloadable.
> >
> > AY
> >
> >
> >
> > ----- Original Message ----
> > From: Peter Smagorinsky <smago@uga.edu>
> > To: "eXtended Mind, Culture, Activity" <xmca@weber.ucsd.edu>
> > Sent: Tue, June 14, 2011 6:18:56 AM
> > Subject: RE: [xmca] help-me -- Rudneva, E. I. (1937/2000). Vygotsky's
> > Pedological Distortions
> >
> > Thanks for sharing this piece. I've read many summaries about why LSV
> fell
> > out
> > of favor in Moscow, but this is the first truly contemporary (published
> in
> > 1937
> > originally, and reproduced here) vituperative attack that lays out the
> > complaint.
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: xmca-bounces@weber.ucsd.edu [mailto:xmca-bounces@weber.ucsd.edu]
> On
> > Behalf
> >
> > Of mike cole
> > Sent: Tuesday, June 14, 2011 12:06 AM
> > To: eXtended Mind, Culture, Activity
> > Subject: Re: [xmca] help-me -- Rudneva, E. I. (1937/2000). Vygotsky's
> > Pedological Distortions
> >
> > Thanks Anton--
> > Bad fellow that LSV. No end of mischief, to this day.
> > Well, he got his just deserts. He died young of tuberculosis and totally
> > avoided lead poisoning!
> > mike
> >
> > On Mon, Jun 13, 2011 at 6:01 PM, Joao <jbmartin@sercomtel.com.br> wrote:
> >
> > > Thanks, Anton
> > >
> > >
> > > João Martins
> > >
> > >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: xmca-bounces@weber.ucsd.edu [mailto:xmca-bounces@weber.ucsd.edu]
> > On
> > > Behalf Of Anton Yasnitsky
> > > Sent: segunda-feira, 13 de junho de 2011 19:44
> > > To: eXtended Mind, Culture, Activity
> > > Subject: Re: [xmca] help-me -- Rudneva, E. I. (1937/2000). Vygotsky's
> > > Pedological Distortions
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > ----- Original Message ----
> > > From: Joao <jbmartin@sercomtel.com.br>
> > > To: "eXtended Mind, Culture, Activity" <xmca@weber.ucsd.edu>
> > > Sent: Mon, June 13, 2011 5:34:22 PM
> > > Subject: [xmca] help-me
> > >
> > > People... i need of text
> > > Rudneva, E. I. - Vygotsky's Pedological Distortions, published at
> Journal
> > > of
> > > Russian and East European Psychology, V. 38, N. 6, P. 75-94 -
> > > November-December 2000
> > >
> > > Can Someone help-me?
> > >
> > > Thanks
> > >
> > > João Martins
> > >
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