Re: [xmca] Vygotsky Circle as a Personal Network of Scholars: Restoring Connections Between People and Ideas

[Anton Yasnitsky <the_yasya@yahoo.com>]

Not only were they socially motivated, Mike, but also, as I argue, directed 
against not Vygotsky, dead by then, but against his socially successful former 
associates: Luria, Zankov, Elkonin et al.

AY 



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From: mike cole <lchcmike@gmail.com>
To: "eXtended Mind, Culture, Activity" <xmca@weber.ucsd.edu>
Sent: Tue, June 14, 2011 1:00:15 PM
Subject: Re: [xmca] Vygotsky Circle as a Personal Network of Scholars: Restoring 
Connections Between People and Ideas

Yes, Anton, I think it is safe to say that those critiques were socially
motivated!
Thanks for all the new materials.
mike

On Tue, Jun 14, 2011 at 6:50 AM, Anton Yasnitsky <the_yasya@yahoo.com>wrote:

> P.S. Oh, yes, speaking of Vygotsky's followers and their integrative
> theory.
>
>
> I have just been informed that the previously announced paper on Vygotsky
> Circle
> has just been released as an Online First publication, see:
>
> Yasnitsky, A. (2011). Vygotsky Circle as a Personal Network of Scholars:
> Restoring Connections Between People and Ideas. Integrative Psychological
> and
> Behavioral Science; DOI: 10.1007/s12124-011-9168-5
> http://www.springerlink.com/content/b34101p383588v95/
>
> The paper is quite long and fairly detailed, but the pictures, all five of
> them,
> are really good and particularly loveable! Also, the Appendix stands out, I
> guess... :)
>
> I believe this is the first ever study of its kind that systematically
> investigates the inter- and intra-group dynamics within the entire group of
> scholars around Vygotsky during his lifetime and after his death. The
> rationale
> for such study was provided somewhere else: please see discussion of the
> urgent
> need in understanding collaborative and experimental aspects of Vygotsky &
> Co's
> integrative science of cultural and biosocial development of mind, brain,
> and
> behaviour, closer to the end of the paper under the section "Programmatic
> Conclusion: What Needs to Be Done and How?" in
>
> van der Veer, R. & Yasnitsky, A. (2011). Vygotsky in English: What Still
> Needs
> to Be Done. Integrative Psychological and Behavioral Science; DOI:
> 10.1007/s12124-011-9172-9 @
> http://www.springerlink.com/content/278j5025767m2263/
>
>
> AY
>
>
>
> ----- Original Message ----
> From: Anton Yasnitsky <the_yasya@yahoo.com>
> To: "eXtended Mind, Culture, Activity" <xmca@weber.ucsd.edu>
> Sent: Tue, June 14, 2011 8:57:56 AM
> Subject: Re: [xmca] help-me -- Rudneva, E. I. (1937/2000). Vygotsky's
> Pedological Distortions
>
> No problem.
>
>
> Speaking of Vygotsky "falling out of favor in Moscow", one needs to
> understand
> that, quite contrary to traditional fairly simplistic accounts, 1934-1936
> was
> truly a "Golden Age" for -- dead by   then -- Vygotsky and his -- still
> alive --
>
> followers: lots of stuff, including Vygotsky's stuff, was published by the
> group, for Vygotsky--posthumously. The discussion of this "Golden Age"
> first
> appears, I believe, in Yasnitsky, A. (2011). Lev Vygotsky: Philologist and
> Defectologist, A Socio-intellectual Biography. In Pickren, W., Dewsbury,
> D., &
> Wertheimer, M. (Eds.). Portraits of Pioneers in Developmental Psychology,
> vol.
> VII, but I am not so sure about that.
>
> Thus, Rudneva's critique, as well as the critique of several other
> individuals
> that appears to have been directed at Vygotsky, despite appearance quite
> likely
> targeted not the dead man, but his socially and academically successful
> followers. Among others, most often several names were pronounced, such as
> Luria, Zankov, Elkonin, Shif, and Leontiev. Thus, in other words, we do not
> truly know what motivated these critiques and how they really affected the
> carreers and, generally, the course of events back there and then, but
> chances
> are the critique was originally meant by their authors much more socially
> than
> theoretically. By the way, for other critical publications of that time
> please
> see a marvelous issue of the Journal of Russian and East European
> Psychology
> that Rene van der Veer published more than a decade ago (Volume 38, Number
> 6 /
> November-December 2000 of Journal of Russian and East European Psychology):
>
>
>http://mesharpe.metapress.com/openurl.asp?genre=issue&issn=1061-0405&volume=38&issue=6
>6
>
> OR      http://mesharpe.metapress.com/link.asp?id=n73424205223 (both links
> seem to be good, I just am not sure which one might work this time,
> luckily,
> both)
>
> FYI, all materials that came out in this journal have been digitized and
> from
> January 2011 are accessible/downloadable.
>
> AY
>
>
>
> ----- Original Message ----
> From: Peter Smagorinsky <smago@uga.edu>
> To: "eXtended Mind, Culture, Activity" <xmca@weber.ucsd.edu>
> Sent: Tue, June 14, 2011 6:18:56 AM
> Subject: RE: [xmca] help-me -- Rudneva, E. I. (1937/2000). Vygotsky's
> Pedological Distortions
>
> Thanks for sharing this piece. I've read many summaries about why LSV fell
> out
> of favor in Moscow, but this is the first truly contemporary (published in
> 1937
> originally, and reproduced here) vituperative attack that lays out the
> complaint.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: xmca-bounces@weber.ucsd.edu [mailto:xmca-bounces@weber.ucsd.edu] On
> Behalf
>
> Of mike cole
> Sent: Tuesday, June 14, 2011 12:06 AM
> To: eXtended Mind, Culture, Activity
> Subject: Re: [xmca] help-me -- Rudneva, E. I. (1937/2000). Vygotsky's
> Pedological Distortions
>
> Thanks Anton--
> Bad fellow that LSV. No end of mischief, to this day.
> Well, he got his just deserts. He died young of tuberculosis and totally
> avoided lead poisoning!
> mike
>
> On Mon, Jun 13, 2011 at 6:01 PM, Joao <jbmartin@sercomtel.com.br> wrote:
>
> > Thanks, Anton
> >
> >
> > João Martins
> >
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: xmca-bounces@weber.ucsd.edu [mailto:xmca-bounces@weber.ucsd.edu]
> On
> > Behalf Of Anton Yasnitsky
> > Sent: segunda-feira, 13 de junho de 2011 19:44
> > To: eXtended Mind, Culture, Activity
> > Subject: Re: [xmca] help-me -- Rudneva, E. I. (1937/2000). Vygotsky's
> > Pedological Distortions
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > ----- Original Message ----
> > From: Joao <jbmartin@sercomtel.com.br>
> > To: "eXtended Mind, Culture, Activity" <xmca@weber.ucsd.edu>
> > Sent: Mon, June 13, 2011 5:34:22 PM
> > Subject: [xmca] help-me
> >
> > People... i need of text
> > Rudneva, E. I. - Vygotsky's Pedological Distortions, published at Journal
> > of
> > Russian and East European Psychology, V. 38, N. 6, P. 75-94 -
> > November-December 2000
> >
> > Can Someone help-me?
> >
> > Thanks
> >
> > João Martins
> >
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