RE: [xmca] nonverbal representations

[Monica Hansen <monica.hansen@vandals.uidaho.edu>]

Thanks, Vera. I have your book right here.

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From: xmca-bounces@weber.ucsd.edu [mailto:xmca-bounces@weber.ucsd.edu] On
Behalf Of Vera John-Steiner
Sent: Friday, April 29, 2011 11:07 AM
To: eXtended Mind, Culture, Activity
Subject: Re: [xmca] nonverbal representations

Hi Monica,

I agree with your interpretation. You may want to look at my Visual Thinking

chapter in Notebooks of the Mind, and the last chapter where I try to 
integrate my ideas about cognitive pluralism ( a term I coined later) with 
Vygotskian theory. Peter's work on masks and literacy is another interesting

line to follow as is Jay's theory.
Vera John Steiner
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From: "Monica Hansen" <monica.hansen@vandals.uidaho.edu>
To: "'eXtended Mind, Culture, Activity'" <xmca@weber.ucsd.edu>
Sent: Friday, April 29, 2011 12:00 PM
Subject: RE: [xmca] nonverbal representations


> The section I am working on is a brief historical overview of the study of
> mental imagery conceptions of nonverbal mental representations and their
> role in literacy development. For example, here is one quote of Vygotky's
> that is problematic for me.
>
> In Kozulin's translation of Thought and Language (1986): "We are therefore
> forced to conclude that the fusion of though and speech, in adults as well
> as in children, is a phenomenon limited to a circumscribed area. Nonverbal
> thought and nonintellectual speech do not participate in this fusion and 
> are
> affected only indirectly by the processes of verbal thought" (p. 89).
>
> Does anyone have another interpretation here? This is in Chapter 4 in The
> Genetic Roots of Thought and Speech at the end of part III.
>
>
>
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> From: xmca-bounces@weber.ucsd.edu [mailto:xmca-bounces@weber.ucsd.edu] On
> Behalf Of Martin Packer
> Sent: Thursday, April 28, 2011 8:26 PM
> To: eXtended Mind, Culture, Activity
> Subject: Re: [xmca] sense and sensibility
>
> What's your project, Monica?
>
> Martin
>
> On Apr 28, 2011, at 8:16 PM, Monica Hansen wrote:
>
>> Thank you so much! Definitely useful for my current project-a small part
> of
>> my dissertation, which is turning out to be a lot about semiotics, who
> knew?
>> I thought it was just about words and meaning.
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: xmca-bounces@weber.ucsd.edu [mailto:xmca-bounces@weber.ucsd.edu] On
>> Behalf Of Martin Packer
>> Sent: Thursday, April 28, 2011 5:22 PM
>> To: eXtended Mind, Culture, Activity
>> Subject: Re: [xmca] sense and sensibility
>>
>> This from Morris' dissertation: Symbolism and reality: a study in the
> nature
>> of mind.
>>
>> "The essay will aim to show that thought and mind are not entities, nor
> even
>> processes involving a psychical substance distinguishable from the rest 
>> of
>> reality, but are explicable as the functioning of parts of the experience
> of
>> an organism as symbols to that organism of other parts of experience.
> Being
>> then the symbolic portion *of* experience, the psychical or mental can
>> neither be sharply opposed to the rest of experience, nor identified with
>> the whole of experience. And since experience will be shown to be a
> portion
>> of reality, it follows that mind and reality can never be utterly
> separated
>> nor indiscriminately identified" (3-4)
>>
>> On Apr 28, 2011, at 7:09 PM, Martin Packer wrote:
>>
>>> Monica,
>>>
>>> Charles W. Morris (May 23, 1901, Denver, Colorado - January 15, 1979,
>> Gainesville, Florida) was an American semiotician and philosopher. George
>> Herbert Mead directed his doctoral dissertation on a symbolic theory of
>> mind, completed in 1925. His students included semiotician Thomas A.
> Sebeok.
>> For some years I've had his "Six Theories of Mind" (1932) on the shelf,
> and
>> recently found time to read it. (It's available on the web.)
>>>
>>> Martin
>>>
>>
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