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Re: [xmca] History of triangle metaphors in post-Piagetian theory
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- From: mike cole <lchcmike@gmail.com>
- Date: Tue, 20 Jul 2010 17:56:41 -0700
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Its an interesting account, Larry.I have not read enough of the material to
comment on it substantively, but i have forwarded to a European colleague
who is much closer to that line of development to see if the main premise
rings true to a participant.
mike
On Mon, Jul 19, 2010 at 10:10 PM, Larry Purss <lpscholar2@gmail.com> wrote:
> I am curious if a historical trajectory Zittoun, Gillespie, Cornish, and
> Psaltis have suggested has evloved in Piagetian developmental theory is a
> more general trend in developmental theories. The reason I ask is it seems
> to parallel my emerging perspectives and questions about development.
>
> Zittoun et al suggest Piagetian models have developed through 4 generations
> of theorizing the subject-OTHER-object model of development.
> [sociocognitive
> model] They suggest Piaget [except in his early work] focused on the
> binary
> subject-object transmission of knowledge and was a model of interior
> mediation.
> The first generation of post-Piagetian models looked to Mead, Vygotsky,
> Bernstein, and Moscovici to reorient to a triadic subject-OTHER- object
> triangle and resocialized Piaget's model. Subject and other have differing
> perspectives and this creates tension and creates a de-centering and
> cognitive elaborations. Chapman's term was the "epistemic triangle". In
> this first generationof post-Piagetian models tension is created between
> persons interacting as different intentional beings, "but these
> intentional
> participants are not typically considered in terms of their societally
> situated roles.
> A second line of post-piagetian models deepens and extends the notion of
> the
> social to the whole subject-other-object SYSTEM [context] that takes place
> in a world structured by social positions, VALUES, rules, and DISCOURSES"
> which are all factors which CONSTITUTE social positions and thus the
> PERSPECTIVES of the participants in the epistemic triangle. This extends
> interpersonal coordination to include intergroup and ideological processes.
> This generation of models focused on the INSTITUTIONAL contexts and
> re-focuses on the centrality of the object as mediating SYSTEMS of social
> relations [positions]
> More recently another generation of epistemic triangle models is exploring
> the constitutive role social and institutional Asymmetires within societal
> contexts. [Duveen]
>
> This movement from interpersonal interactivity, to institutional roles and
> positions, and then into social representations and hermeneutics gives an
> expanding role to history and traditions and seems parallel to the
> direction
> in which my curiosity is wandering. I was curious if the patterns or
> configurations of emerging epistemic triangle models of development to
> embrace hermeneutics, traditions, and history as the CONTEXT in which
> interpersonal participation is embedded is a trajectory that is more
> general
> across other triangle models of development?
>
> Larry
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