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Re: [xmca] (ism) v (ist)
I wanted to mention an interesting article just posted to the Teachers College website
[this site is available for only $15.00 a year and all their archived material is able to be accessed. It is one of the best bargains around]
Nancy Lesko has written an article called
"The Pedagogy of Monsters: Scary Disturbances in a Doctoral Research Preparation Course"
She is brutally honest about the profound anxiety and vulnerability that doctoral students experience when their basic personal notions of epistemologies and ontologies are "troubled" and "critiqued"
What I wanted to link this article to is our discussions on the positivist or negative experiences of promoting a stance of novelty, uncertainty, and ambivalence.
Lesko's article captures the profound disruptions and crisis that doctoral programs can precipitate in their graduate students as they consciousy set out to unsettle and challenge all preconceived assumptions.
My attempting to embrace ambiguity and uncertainty is contrasted with this other experience of ambiguity when students don't feel safe and recognized.
I would invite others consider that school children in public schools may also be feeling the types of vulnerabilities Lesko is documenting in a doctoral research preparation course.
When you read and remember how you felt while attending university [if it was similar to what Lesko documents] it may promote reflection on how necessary it is to "bring children to mind" BEFORE trying to teach knowledge
Larry
----- Original Message -----
From: ERIC.RAMBERG@spps.org
Date: Wednesday, April 7, 2010 5:58 am
Subject: [xmca] (ism) v (ist)
To: "eXtended Mind, Culture, Activity" <xmca@weber.ucsd.edu>
Cc: xmca-bounces@weber.ucsd.edu, "eXtended Mind, Culture, Activity" <xmca@weber.ucsd.edu>
> In the xmca archive there is much discussion about the
> differences between
> just these two modifiers. Never settled, perhaps never
> will. From a
> linguist standpoint one is active and one is passive.
>
> Helen; from my own experience when I wrote my master's thesis (
> A
> Vygotskian perspective on Special Education Transition Services)
> my
> supervisor kept asking if I wouldn't be better off making the
> argument
> from an Ericson point of view so I believe mainstream acadamia
> is still
> confused about what cultural-historical theory is; however, I
> believe I am
> safe in saying it is not social constructivism. Has your
> supervisor
> specifically stated where they are finding the descrepancies in
> your
> argument? In my thesis I wanted to use more Valsiner and
> Van der Veer
> references but found they did not coexist very well with the
> Vygotsky,
> Luria, Scribner, and Cole cross cultural studies I was referencing.
>
> Maybe this helps, maybe this muddies the water?
>
> eric
>
>
>
>
> Helen Grimmett <helen.grimmett@education.monash.edu.au>
> Sent by: xmca-bounces@weber.ucsd.edu
> 04/06/2010 09:38 PM
> Please respond to "eXtended Mind, Culture, Activity"
>
>
>
> To: lchcmike@gmail.com, "eXtended Mind,
> Culture, Activity"
> <xmca@weber.ucsd.edu>
> cc:
>
> Subject: Re: [xmca]
> Book review ol talk and texts
>
>
> Can I please ask a (probably extremely naive) question? What are the
> differences between social constructivism (as referred to in
> this book
> review) and cultural-historical theory? My supervisor keeps
> telling me I
> am confusing my arguments by using references from both
> paradigms, but I
> still haven't managed to grasp what the difference is.
>
> Thanks,
> Helen
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: mike cole <lchcmike@gmail.com>
> Date: Wednesday, April 7, 2010 11:59 am
> Subject: Re: [xmca] Book review ol talk and texts
> To: "eXtended Mind, Culture, Activity" <xmca@weber.ucsd.edu>
> Cc: Roy Pea <roypea@stanford.edu>
>
> > Thanks for the review, Larry.
> > So many important issue intersect there.
> > Gotta find out what Joe Polman and Roy Pea have to offer on
> the
> > learningparadox. Thought Newman et al. set that one to rest
> back in
> > the last
> > millennium!! And to think that it involves a revival of the
> idea of
> > a zoped
> > in transformative communication! Super.
> >
> > :-)
> > mike
> >
> > Roy-- Can you send us the text? Really sounds interesting.
> > On Tue, Apr 6, 2010 at 9:07 AM, Larry Purss
> <lpurss@shaw.ca> wrote:
> >
> > > I just read this review of a new book that I thought may be
> > interesting to
> > > some of the CHAT community so I''ve attached the
> review. David
> > Olson wrote
> > > one of the chapters.
> > >
> > > Larry
> > >
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