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Re: [xmca] Purposes and processes of education
- To: lchcmike@gmail.com, "eXtended Mind, Culture, Activity" <xmca@weber.ucsd.edu>
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- From: Larry Purss <lpurss@shaw.ca>
- Date: Mon, 18 Jan 2010 00:37:34 -0800
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Another turn of direction in this dialogue/collaboration on the "purposes and processes of education" is generated by my reading a book chapter by Ray McDermott and Jean Lave called "Estranged {labour} Learning" in the book titled "Critical Perspectives on Activity" (2006) by Peter Sawchuck, Newton Duarte, and Mohamed Elhammouni.
Achilles
this article is elaborating a method of textual analysis where Marx's 1844 article "Estranged Labour" is "translated" across disciplinary boundaries (political economy translated into educational theory). Key terms in Marx's political economy discourse are SUBSTITUTED for key terms in educational theory to highlight what McDermott and Lave "see" as a single process of commodification where learning (in parallel to labour) has become alienated and estranged. This method of substitution/translation is very informative in highlighting how key terms are always embedded in narrative constructions which reflect ongoing social relations.
McDermott and Lave point out "For most modern thought, reality has been irremediably perspectival, but for Marx, all perspectives are also irremediably political. OBJECTIVE REALITY not only depends on where one is standing, but where one is standing IN RELATION to everyone else..."(page 99)
McDermott and Lave critique our theories of education as particular discourses that have the same underlying social practices as capitalism. They suggest the commodification of learning is the result.
"Deliberate instruction" from this Marxist tradition is explained as an aspect of perpetuating dominant patterns of estranged labour.
"Deliberate instruction" can also be seen as "schooling" (30 students, 1 teacher) which emerges as a process of statism and centralization as seen in China and elaborated on this thread.
"Deliberate instruction" can also be contrasted as the "human spark" that differentiates chimps and humans and is therefore the ontological ground for adaptation of humans in social groups.
Deliberate instruction as elaborated in "educational theory" needs to expand to include what I view as the more general category of learning theory.
CHAT put's forth a perspective that learning theory must be qualified by the descriptors "situated learning theory" or "relational learning theory" to transcend the view of learning as located within the individual. McDermott and Lave label this notion of "individual" learning "estranged learning". and say it has its historical roots in capitalism. (or an alternative historical narrative of deliberate instruction is in the service of the formation of the state such as in China)
Mike, I'm also not making any validity claims except that by playing with these multiple discourses we do elaborate a deeper more nuanced horizon of understanding on learning theory.
And in this thread we haven't yet added in the notion of "development" to thicken the plot further.
Larry
----- Original Message -----
From: mike cole <lchcmike@gmail.com>
Date: Sunday, January 17, 2010 8:47 pm
Subject: Re: [xmca] Purposes and processes of education
To: Tony Whitson <twhitson@udel.edu>
Cc: "eXtended Mind, Culture, Activity" <xmca@weber.ucsd.edu>, SongFrank <fffranksong@hotmail.com>, huyi <huyi1910@hotmail.com>
> I am unsure, tony.
> Apprenticeships in pre-literate societies are interesting but
> are they
> counter-example? There is arrangement of opportunities to
> observe and even
> sequencing
> of tasks, but descriptions of deliberate instruction are rare
> and there are
> not 30/1 ratios (although there are forms of activity that pass
> as "exams.")
>
> Scribner and Cole studied people who were literate without
> schools, but that
> does not appear typical, and in terms of relationship of
> literacy and
> schooling the direction "causal" relations.
>
> I hope it is clear that I am not making claims here, but trying
> to explore
> more deeply this bundle of issues.
>
> mike
>
> On Sun, Jan 17, 2010 at 8:37 PM, Tony Whitson
> <twhitson@udel.edu> wrote:
>
> > On Sun, 17 Jan 2010, mike cole wrote:
> >
> > As part of background, "deliberate instruction" is one
> of the standing
> >> differentia between chimps and humans. But, for example,
> Bruner claims
> >> that
> >> there is no evidence of deliberate instruction among "Kung
> San Bushmen"
> >> (in
> >> quotes because the names given to these people is highly disputed).
> >>
> >
> > So, to further clarify the question: with this differentium,
> are the
> > apprenticeship models reported by folks like Lave, Scribner,
> and Cole
> > counted or not counted as "deliberate instruction"?
> >
> > And is learning among the Bushmen differentiate from such models?
> >
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