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RE: [xmca] Zhozephina Shif – something in English?

I really understand... Maybe we can say that Vygotsky himself was notever following his own "project"... In some documents (letters) he expresshis desire to dedicate to an species of "cause", the "reconstruction of allpsychological science, building an unified approach, but I really feel that therewas no "tradition" stricto sensu, nor no "vigotskian school" in a very definitefashion... Even more to read Vygotsky is hard exegetical task, his all workseems to be a kind of complex million pieces puzzle, at least for us non Russianreaders... I dont know... But when everybody lies, we need to think aboutmethodological tools to define if there is a possible differentiation betweenlies and truth, or we can be satisfied with the impossibility of any truth inany social discourse... In capitalists liberal regimes, people can tell some liesin order to satisfy editorial needs and market demands too... financial researchfounds to their(our) projects, and so on. Then, nobody is without guilt... inthis great social game for personal success in unequal power relationships, between nations, between institutions, between groups, persons, or evenbetween brothers at the same home... 
:-(
Best wishes. 

> Date: Fri, 15 Jan 2010 11:35:51 -0800
> From: the_yasya@yahoo.com
> Subject: Re: [xmca] Zhozephina Shif – something in English?
> To: xmca@weber.ucsd.edu
> 
> Same thing. No answer. Special research needed. Everybody lies. From 1930s -- onwards.
> 
> Also, note: "Cultural-historical tradition" sensu Vygotsky never existed. And hardly exists today.
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> ----- Original Message ----
> From: Achilles Delari Junior <achilles_delari@hotmail.com>
> To: xmca@weber.ucsd.edu
> Sent: Fri, January 15, 2010 12:59:24 PM
> Subject: RE: [xmca] Zhozephina Shif – something in English? 
> 
> 
> Anton,
> This sounds much better! :-)Thank you very much. And about this title?Психология глухих. (Под ред. И.М. Соловьева, Ж.И. Шиф, Т.В. Розановой и Н.В. Яшковой), М., 1971.Not already from the 1930s... What you recommends? I found an recent Russian publication from 2006,{http://bookseller.ru/book.php?n=1454} but I did not feel secure to order in my blind condition tounderstand the book importance or relation to historical-cultural tradition...
> Thank you.
> > Date: Fri, 15 Jan 2010 09:48:14 -0800
> > From: the_yasya@yahoo.com
> > Subject: Re: [xmca] Zhozephina Shif – something in English?
> > To: xmca@weber.ucsd.edu
> > 
> > RE: Its important to know that it is not near to Vygotsky's trends. --
> > 
> > I never said so. I guess I meant to state that the connection is not obvious and requires substantial textual analysis. Especially so, given the deliberately cryptic style of writing in Soviet Psychology from the 1930s onwards...
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > ----- Original Message ----
> > From: Achilles Delari Junior <achilles_delari@hotmail.com>
> > To: xmca@weber.ucsd.edu
> > Sent: Fri, January 15, 2010 12:12:00 PM
> > Subject: RE: [xmca] Zhozephina Shif – something in English? 
> > 
> > 
> > I understand.Thank you very much.I saw that there is something from her about deaf psychology, for instance, etc.Its important to know that it is not near to Vygotsky's trends. 
> > Best.
> > 
> > > Date: Fri, 15 Jan 2010 08:10:21 -0800
> > > From: the_yasya@yahoo.com
> > > Subject: Re: [xmca] Zhozephina Shif – something in English?
> > > To: xmca@weber.ucsd.edu
> > > 
> > > I personally strongly doubt any translation of this book ever existed. 
> > > 
> > > Good luck anyway!
> > > 
> > > -- However, there is other stuff by Shif available in English, but it is hardly related to her Leningrad work and represent her later Moscow work in defectology...
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > ----- Original Message ----
> > > From: Achilles Delari Junior <achilles_delari@hotmail.com>
> > > To: xmca@weber.ucsd.edu
> > > Sent: Fri, January 15, 2010 2:37:26 AM
> > > Subject: [xmca] Zhozephina Shif – something in English?
> > > 
> > > 
> > > Hi XMCA
> > > people…
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > In order to
> > > help another friend of mine, biologist, studying scientific concepts
> > > development, I’m wonder if you have any notice about English (Spanish, French,
> > > etc.) publication from the following text:
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > Shif, J. I. “Razvitie nauchnykh ponyatii u schko’nika:
> > > Issledovanie k voprosu umstvenogo razvitiya shkol’nika pri obuchenii
> > > obshchestvovedeniyu” [The development of scientific concepts in the school
> > > child: The investigation of intellectual development of the school child in
> > > social science instruction]. Moscow – Leningrad: Gosudarstvennoe
> > > Uchebno-Pedagicheskoe Izdatel’stvo. 1935.
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > I’m trying
> > > the Russian high now, but we are not so prepared to actually translate Russian so
> > > soon, without a huge time spending… And there are many other Russian needs
> > > prior at the schedule, most of that already provide thanks you all.
> > > 
> > > 
> > > If you have any notice... :-)
> > > 
> > > 
> > > Thank you
> > > very much. Good 2010 for all.
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > Best
> > > wishes.
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > Achilles. 
> > > 
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