Re: [xmca] James Banks' talk / LIFE Center

That informal learning settings deserve a lot more attention is easy to be
me to agree with, Lois, But NSF appears to concentrate its money in the
informal math/science program
almost entirely in such places as museums, exploratoria, etc. Maybe some of
the high tech web based approach are better funded, I am not sure. Community
centers under
community control do not appear attractive venues for research money and,
for the most part, for researchers.

Note. This issue may be related to the "evidence based research" problem
discussed in other threads.
mike

On Mon, Mar 31, 2008 at 9:38 AM, David Shaenfield <dshaen@yahoo.com> wrote:

>
> I was at the Banks' talk and got the same message. The panel spoke on the
> consensus report recently released by the Learning in Informal and Formal
> Environments (LIFE) center.
> Principles:
> http://life-slc.org/?p=613
> Details:
> http://life-slc.org/?p=498
>
> take care,
> David
>
> ----- Original Message ----
> From: Lois Holzman <lholzman@eastsideinstitute.org>
> To: "eXtended Mind, Culture, Activity" <xmca@weber.ucsd.edu>
> Sent: Monday, March 31, 2008 11:54:09 AM
> Subject: Re: [xmca] What new and interesting?
>
> I don't know if it qualifies as a model, but there is also what is
> referred to as supplemental education by Gordon and his colleagues,
> and complementary learning by the Harvard Family Research Group—the
> basic idea being that it is outside of school opportunities that make
> the difference. The range is pretty big—quality structured programs
> like The Fifth Dimension, museum going, family trips, camps, cultural
> and sports events and lessons, etc. The philosophical writings on
> identity and race and cosmopolitanism by Appiah (which I like very
> much) also resonate here.
> I wasn't there, but I heard that James Banks' talk at AERA suggested
> that if kids are learning outside of school more than in school maybe
> ed researchers should pay attention. Can someone who heard his talk
> fill in (and correct me if I got it wrong)?
> Lois
>
> On Mar 31, 2008, at 10:45 AM, ERIC.RAMBERG@spps.org wrote:
>
> >
> > The big push in american public schools is to "close the achievement
> > gap."
> > This means that there is a discrepancy in achievement when test
> > scores of
> > one racial group are compared with another racial group. What is it
> > that
> > we know about the cause of this and how many different answers have
> > been
> > given in trying to explain it? Are we using the correct tool for
> > measuring
> > the achievement gap? We have Feuerstein's model, we have Freier's
> > model
> > and then we have the NCLB model. Seeing as the first two models are
> > outside the circle of funding it is obvious what model will be
> > provided the
> > public schools in the U.S. My new and interesting thought is that
> > given
> > the reality of how public schools are funded and that NCLB will not
> > go away
> > any time soon, how can the 5th dimension research be expanded so it
> > can
> > have influence on closing the achievement gap?
> >
> > respectfully,
> >
> > eric
> >
> > P.S. Paula I hope you choose to introduce your new research soon.
> >
> >
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