RE: [xmca] cognition bounded?

Artifacts?

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From: xmca-bounces@weber.ucsd.edu [mailto:xmca-bounces@weber.ucsd.edu] On Behalf Of Mike Cole
Sent: Wednesday, December 05, 2007 11:04 PM
To: eXtended Mind, Culture, Activity
Subject: Re: [xmca] cognition bounded?

With what are we thinking, Don?
mike

On Dec 5, 2007 4:43 PM, Cunningham, Donald James <cunningh@indiana.edu>
wrote:

> Eugene, should your signature question be "What do we think?" instead of
> "What do you think?"? Or "What are we thinking with? [forgive the grammar!]?
>
> Don Cunningham
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: xmca-bounces@weber.ucsd.edu [mailto:xmca-bounces@weber.ucsd.edu] On
> Behalf Of Eugene Matusov
> Sent: Wednesday, December 05, 2007 10:46 AM
> To: mcole@weber.ucsd.edu
> Cc: xmca@weber.ucsd.edu
> Subject: RE: [xmca] cognition bounded?
>
> Dear Mike and everybody-
>
>
>
> Let me add my 3 cents (dollar is going down ;-) for this discussion. I
> think
> it is better to use the verb "to mind" or "minding" than the noun "the
> mind"
> since we often refer to a process rather than to a thing. In general, I
> agree with Mike, of course. But let tell you an anecdote to illustrate the
> "distributed" (or discursive?) nature of the minding process.
>
>
>
> A few days ago, when I was leaving my work, I could not find my car in the
> university 4-store building parking garage. As my memory has been getting
> more and more mature ;-) every day, I knew that it would happen one day
> and
> that day came. While I was frustrating in my search running from one
> store
> of the parking garage to another, I realized that on the top of forgetting
> where I had parked my car, I forget to pick up a video camera from my lab
> for next day videotaped observation of Lego-Logo Robotics activities at
> the
> Latin-American Community Center. With even more frustration, I went back
> to
> my lab to pick up the camera. At the lab, I realized that I forgot to send
> a
> web announcement to my undergrad students about reading for upcoming class
> discussion. I sent the announcement and made some emails, and did some
> other
> work while I was in lab. When I finished, I realized that it took about 2
> hours. I came back to the parking garage (with the video camera this time)
> to resume the search of my car, the garage was almost empty, and I found
> my
> car very easily. I was thinking about my "strategy" of "waiting" until the
> garage became empty, "That was smart!" Now I am thinking, where was my
> mind?
> Did I have mind at all? Was it minding? Was it MY minding? Did I lose mind
> and then found? Does mind, like sh..., sometimes simply happen?
>
>
>
> Or is "my mind" a historical and cultural form of discourse for me to
> notice/recognize certain things and use them in future (like in future
> when
> I lose my car in the UD parking garage I might stop frustrating and stop
> useless searching efforts and just go back to my office to work more
> waiting
> until cars will be gone from the garage)? Is "the mind" reification of
> this
> discourse?
>
>
>
> What do you think?
>
>
>
> Eugene
>
>
>
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>
> Eugene Matusov, Ph.D.
>
> Professor of Education
>
> School of Education
>
> University of Delaware
>
> Newark, DE 19716, USA
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> email: ematusov@udel.edu
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> fax: 1-(302)-831-4110
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>
> From: Mike Cole [mailto:lchcmike@gmail.com]
> Sent: Tuesday, December 04, 2007 11:45 PM
> To: Eugene Matusov
> Subject: Fwd: [xmca] cognition bounded?
>
>
>
>
>
> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
> From: Mike Cole <lchcmike@gmail.com>
> Date: Dec 4, 2007 8:44 PM
> Subject: Re: [xmca] cognition bounded?
> To: "eXtended Mind, Culture, Activity" <xmca@weber.ucsd.edu>
> Cc: Kevin Rocap <Kevin.Rocap@liu.edu <mailto:Kevin.Rocap@liu.edu> >
>
>
> This appears to be the responibility of Deleware and Louisiana. Eugene and
> David?
>
> My view? OF COURSE the mind is in the head.... but not only. If it were
> only
> in the head it would stay
> there and not kill people. Too damned good at killing people as it is!
> mike
>
>
>
> On Dec 4, 2007 8:16 PM, Juan Felipe Espinosa Cristià <jfespino@uc.cl
> <mailto:jfespino@uc.cl> > wrote:
>
> :)
>
>
> Kevin Rocap escribió:
>
> > Then who's minding the store? ;-)
> >
> > Juan Felipe Espinosa Cristià wrote:
> >> Dear All:
> >>
> >> An online paper from the authors is at:
> >>
> >> http://www.udel.edu/Philosophy/papers/adams2007.pdf
> >>
> >> They said that "the mind is still in the head".
> >>
> >>
> >> Juan Felipe Espinosa C.
> >> jfespino@uc.cl
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>> On 12/4/07 11:20 AM, "Peter Smagorinsky" < smago@uga.edu> wrote:
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>> Thanks Martin--always useful to see a contrary perspective. The
> descriptor
> >>>> says that the book:
> >>>> "Articulates and defends the "mark of the cognitive", a common sense
> >>>> theory
> >>>> used to distinguish between cognitive and non-cognitive processes"
> >>>>
> >>>> I always wonder about "common sense" arguments, and the author's
> belief
> >>>> that
> >>>> they are beyond culture.
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> Peter Smagorinsky
> >>>> The University of Georgia
> >>>> 125 Aderhold Hall
> >>>> Athens, GA 30602
> >>>> smago@uga.edu/phone:706-542-4507
> >>>> http://www.coe.uga.edu/lle/faculty/smagorinsky/index.html
> >>>>
> >>>>
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