Maturana
http://www.enolagaia.com/ReadingRoom.html#Primary
including The Nature of Time
5/12/01 8:46:43 PM, Judy Diamondstone
<diamonju@rci.rutgers.edu> wrote:
>yeah, Don, I know what you mean.... As I understand it, the
difference
>between production/consumption is precisely the object.
Insofar as the
>subject orients to an object, he or she is involved in
productive activity.
>In YE's model, it's easier, because the subject is
collective, & in any
>case, we define an activity in terms of its object. But at
the level of
>action, I think whatever we as individuals do is often
(always?) both at
>once, though the producers are not always the consumers
within the same
>system (certainly not in industrial activity!)
>
>can you elaborate on Maturana with AT?
>
>
>At 04:52 PM 5/12/01 -0500, you wrote:
>>Hmmmmm. Judy, this helps me identify one my puzzles. What
is "produced"?
>>What is "consumed"? Maybe it is the "exchange" metaphor
that I don't
>>understand. For my own thinking the notion of structural
coupling (e.g.,
>>Maturana) has been more helpful. Can you elaborate?
>>
>>djc
>>
>>-----Original Message-----
>>From: Judith Diamondstone [mailto:diamonju@rci.rutgers.edu]
>>Sent: Saturday, May 12, 2001 1:27 PM
>>To: xmca@weber.ucsd.edu
>>Subject: Re: community vs. activity system
>>
>>
>>
>>I've thought of "community" in AT as "community of
reference" -- i.e., the
>>backdrop against which 'relevance' emerges.
>>
>>The answer to Don's q:
>>
>>My confusion of community with the activity system is
perhaps
>>understandable since in this example (and in others, I
imagine) XMCAites are
>>a part of the community of those inspired by CHAT. The
subject could, in
>>another analysis, be what is here represented as the
community. What would
>>BE the community in that analysis, I wonder?
>>
>>would of course depend on Don's project more generally ('it
depends') but
>>could for instance be social theorists around the world.
>>
>>'community of reference' indexes for me the semiotic nature
of processes of
>>consumption -- the colletctive subject of xmca participants
orient to one
>>another as well as to a wider community/ies, whereas in
'production,'
>>semiosis is instrumental: the subject orients to the obj.
>>
>>Judy
>>
>>
>
>
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