If this is the article that was in the Progress collection from the early
80s, I read it in the British Library in London. Due to their extortionate
photocopying charges and my inherent meanness ;), I don't have a full copy
of the text, but I can get one next time I'm in London, which will probably
be in September. At present my scanner is non-functioning, but I could make
another copy and send it on (or even better get the scanner working).
I think it would be a useful focus for discussion. FWIW, there were some
things in it that were unclear to me and others I think I would argue
about.
Bruce Robinson
On Thursday, August 24, 2000 12:12 AM, Andy Blunden
[SMTP:a.blunden@pb.unimelb.edu.au] wrote:
> Paul,
>
> I would be delighted to put up any Ilyenkov material at all I can get
hold
> of. I still have 100 pages or so of his book on Positivism to scan, but
> that can wait. I have never seen this book on the concept of the Ideal.
> Ilyenkov is the most frequently commented on and appreciated author
(apart
> from Hegel) that I have archived.
>
> The simple problem is - Ilyenkov is unavailable in Australia so far as I
> know. If I am going to put any more Ilyenkov up on the MIA site I need
help
> in finding the appropriate texts.
>
> Andy
>
> PS: I would love to see the Leontyev text we are going to discuss on the
> MIA as well, Nate is the director of the Leontyev archive. I don't know
> what the copyright situation might be for it.
>
>
>
> At 12:26 23/08/2000 -0700, you wrote:
> >mike,
> >
> >I'm looking into the feasibility of putting up the Bakhurst passages.
> >
> >The book is "Consciousness and Revolution in Soviet Philosophy: From the
> >Bolsheviks to Evald Ilyenkov". Cambridge University Press. 1991.
> >
> >Ch. 3 is devoted to a discussion of Vygotsky with attention to the
question
> >of "internalization" (ZPD not really at issue here). The theme of the
book
> >is Evald Ilyenkov's reworking of dialectical materialist theory with
special
> >attention to "the problem of the ideal."
> >
> >A lot of Ilyenkov at http://www.marxists.org/archive/ilyenkov/index.htm
but
> >one of the works that Bakhurst cites frequently is "The Concept of the
> >Ideal" but I have been unable to locate it. Andy, any chance of getting
> >that up on the Ilyenkov page??
> >
> >Paul H. Dillon
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >----- Original Message -----
> >From: Mike Cole <mcole@weber.ucsd.edu>
> >To: <xmca@weber.ucsd.edu>
> >Sent: Wednesday, August 23, 2000 10:24 AM
> >Subject: some refs
> >
> >
> >>
> >> Paul-- Could you post a couple of key refs of works you are drawing
> >> on, and where possible, parts of things. I am thinking of Bakhurst
> >> on Vygotsky on units of anlaysis, for example. If its at all possible
> >> to scan key passages and post them to xmca, it would greatly broaden
> >> potential participation.
> >>
> >> Still waiting to hear from our Nordic neighbors.
> >> mike
> >>
> >
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