Re: time1, retarting the issue of time

Naoki Ueno (nueno who-is-at nier.go.jp)
Wed, 17 Dec 1997 20:29:11 +0900

Dear Mike,

At 6:57 PM 12/16/97 -0800, Mike Cole wrote:
>Hi Naoki-- I am caught in the middle of end-of-the-term termoil,
>so while you are reading Cultural Psychology and I am reading your
>messages, and Reijo's paper on AT and ANT that is on the xmca web
>page.

I will also read Reijo's paper.

> There is a good deal about time in *Zen and the Art of
>Motorcycle maintenance*. Have you read it? When I am caught up
>:-)

So far it is not possible to read. If you summurize or quote it,
I will be able to be "catching up" your constituting context.

In your Cultural Pyschology page 182-184, I found out the term
"prolepsis" of Rommeteveit(1974).

In the paper of Harvey Sacks, there is a similar term, that is
"prospective indexical". Chuck Goodwin analysed an interaction at
operation room of airport based on the perspective of "prospective
indexical" in his paper "Transparent Vision".
The paper of Havey Sacks(1974) is "An analysis of the course of
a joke's telling in conversation".

It is possibel to say that the term "prospective indexical" addresses
mutual constitution(or mutual elaboration) of "the past" , "the present"
and "the future".

Further, my paper about lathe machine technicians is also relevant to
"prolepsis" or "prospective indexical".
I wrote about mutual constitution of "new technology" and "old
technology" and pointed out that "the old technology" is in some sense
very new along with referring to G.H. Mead. G.H. Mead's formulating
the past in present can be regarded as another version of prospective
indexical.

Anyway, "the past" , "the present" and "the future" constantly,
locally, constitute each other and "the past" is always
in "the present" and in "the future".

Your book reminded me of the Macfarlane's recorded conversation
(in p. 184 of Cultural Pyschology).
This example is great and also related to the issue of
prospective indexical.

Fig. 7. 1. (p. 185) and your interpretation of this record in Cultural
Psycholgy do not look like being compathible with ""prolepsis" or
"proepective indexical" and this example.

These are the future issue, probable next week or after that.
Will this mail be part of prospective indexical with the future
conversation?

Naoki Ueno
NIER, Tokyo