[Xmca-l] Re: Zagorsk and consciousness

[Laure Kloetzer]

Dear colleagues,

Sorry to come back only now to this already old discussion, but I finally
had the chance to watch the documentary Butterflies of Zagorsk and was
wondering whether this line of teaching deaf-blind children was still
active in Russia ? I couldn't find the answer, if it has been discussed
before, in XMCA archives...
Best regards to all,
Laure Kloetzer


Le lun. 9 mars 2020 à 00:44, mike cole <mcole@ucsd.edu> a écrit :

> Wagner, Peg et al -
>
> There are several films here:
>
> https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://www.google.com/search?q=suvorov*blind&oq=suvorov*blind&aqs=chrome..69i57j0.6615j0j7&sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8__;Kys!!Mih3wA!VSna-a9MgWw2fjW-csBTyd6yTZnHXnDRgQ3ViCgEDQPhNbQugKUh1BcZrk3lXNowSiPzJA$ 
>
>
> I believe that if you write to him, Sasha Suvorov would be glad to help.
> He has continued to be an active scholar/activist in the Putin era.
> If you reach him, say hello. :-)
> mike
>
>
>
>
> On Sun, Mar 8, 2020 at 4:22 PM Wagner Luiz Schmit <wagner.schmit@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>> I have the Portuguese version, and it seems to be the only one available.
>> The quality is very bad, you can't hear the dialogue sometimes, and the
>> translation is bad to say the least. It is what I have been using in my
>> classes in Brazil, but since it is dubbed in Portuguese I can't share it
>> with non Portuguese speakers.
>>
>> Wagner
>>
>> On Sun, Mar 8, 2020, 18:39 Tom Richardson <tom.richardson3@googlemail.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> Wagner Luiz - not good quality and in Portugese ????
>>> https://urldefense.com/v3/__http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x24gaj1__;!!Mih3wA!VSna-a9MgWw2fjW-csBTyd6yTZnHXnDRgQ3ViCgEDQPhNbQugKUh1BcZrk3lXNohphLc8Q$ 
>>> <https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://www.dailymotion.com/video/x24gaj1__;!!Mih3wA!VSna-a9MgWw2fjW-csBTyd6yTZnHXnDRgQ3ViCgEDQPhNbQugKUh1BcZrk3lXNqnFVa8Pw$ >
>>> TomRichardson
>>>
>>> On Sun, 8 Mar 2020 at 15:00, Wagner Luiz Schmit <wagner.schmit@gmail.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Dear colleagues,
>>>>
>>>> Did anybody else tried to replicate or something similar to the
>>>> Meshcheryakov experiment at Zagorsk with deaf-blind children?
>>>>
>>>> Is there any description of the process of education of deaf-blind born
>>>> children?
>>>>
>>>> And is there another discussion on the problem of consciousness in CHAT
>>>> besides the works of Bakhurst and Mikhailov? Specially taking into account
>>>> new discoveries in the field of neurology like those described in the book
>>>> "The conscious instinct" by Michael Gazzaniga?
>>>>
>>>> And if anyone has the documentary "Butterflies of Zagorsk" by bbc in
>>>> good quality, please let me know.
>>>>
>>>> Wagner
>>>>
>>>>
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