[Xmca-l] Re: Philosophie des Geistes?

[David Kellogg]

Thanks, Andy--this is it!

"In physiology the viscera and the organs are treated merely as parts
subservient to the animal organism; but they form at the same time a
physical system for the expression of mental states, and in this way they
get quite another interpretation."

The only problem is the word "expression". In the James-Lange theory, the
mental states are the expression of the viscera and the organs. But perhaps
that's what Hegel really means here: the viscera and organs are a system
that expresses a state which we interpret as an emotion.

(I remember a dear friend of mine getting a messy divorce and remarking,
when I worried that he was losing a lot of weight, that it wasn't his heart
that was broken but his stomach....)


David Kellogg
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On Thu, Jul 23, 2020 at 5:19 PM Andy Blunden <andyb@marxists.org> wrote:

> If you're interested in s. 401, then you'll probably be interested in 402
> as well.
>
> One other possibility: The "official" way of citing Hegel nowadays is to
> cite the page no. in the authoritative version of *Hegel Werke*. The
> German word for "page" is *Seite*, so you would say "S. 401" of the *Enc*,
> This turns out also to be an interesting passage of the Subjective Spirit,
> on Self-consciousness, concerned with the infamous Master-Slave dialectic,
> though in a much reduced form, not like in the *Phenomenology of Spirit*.
>
> See p. 401 in the other attachment, ENZYKl3.PDF, in German. English
> translation is here:
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> On 23/07/2020 5:47 pm, Andy Blunden wrote:
>
> The Philosophy of Spirit is the Third Part of the Encyclopaedia, itself
> composed of three parts:
>
>    - Subjective Spirit, which is commonly taken as Psychology
>    - Objective Spirit, which is commonly taken as Social Theory, and
>    - Absolute Spirit, which covers Art, religion, Science and Philosophy.
>
> The Encyclopaedia has numbered paragraphs. These do vary between 2 or
> editions, but these will be limited probably by those translated into
> English,
>
> I would start with the 1930 version"
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> - a very early stage in the development of mental life, or.
>
> The 1817 version has
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> - this version puts s. 401 at the beginning of a version of Objective
> Spirit.
> The 1830 one, above, has a long Note to it written by his students on the
> basis of Hegel's lectures which is a long discourse on the development of
> thinking from sensation. I am thinking this is what you mean. I will
> photocopy it and send it on.
>
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> On 23/07/2020 5:09 pm, David Kellogg wrote:
>
> We are trying to turn Vygotsky's "Teaching on Emotion" into one of those
> cartoon books that are so popular here in Korea (e.g. the "Why?" series).
> It's not Vygotsky for dummies, but it will have a lot of pictures with
> questions and answers alongside Vygotsky's rather difficult text.
>
> We've got to figure out the text first. For example, what does John Dewey
> mean when he says:
>
> "On the historical side, it may be worth noting that a crude anticipation
> of James' theory is found in Hegel's Philosophie des Geistes, 401."?
>
> Did Hegel ever write a Philosophie des Geistes? If so, does the number
> refer to a page number or a section or what?
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