[Xmca-l] Re: General check-in?

Wed Apr 8 15:27:34 PDT 2020

I live in Washington, DC, Henry, but my roots here are by way of LCHC in San Diego which begot xlchc which begot xmca.  Don’t know why I switched into a biblical dialect, but not hallucinations, just whimsy. And a little tired this evening. 

Did you notice how my motif in my last post turned unto motive when I sent it?  I think it was Leonti’ev sneaking in.

The description of your mask seems dashing! Could Judy have alternative (or ulterior) motive (or motif)?

Hmmm, just recognized the 5th Dimension wanting into the lineage recital.  Still no hallucination just a few sips  of a nice Tuscan blend…

Peg

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Hey Peg!

Yes, I will tell Governor Michelle you’re rooting for her from where you and yours are at! Please forgive my senior moment, but where do YOU live? 

My wife Judy figured out how to make a mask from a bandana and two hair ties. Like I’m ready to rob the stage coach, full of ppe (personal protective equipment).:) I saw a cartoon of Trump and his underlings at one of his you-can’t-make-it-up briefings. They are wearing masks that cover nose and mouth. Trump has a Lone Ranger mask. Here’s a link for those short on Americana:

https://www.pinterest.com/robertharmon311/lone-ranger-mask-patterns-for-save-ranger-challeng/

Stay safe and well!

Henry

On Apr 8, 2020, at 11:27 AM, Peg Griffin, Ph.D. <Peg.Griffin@att.net <mailto:Peg.Griffin@att.net> > wrote:

Henry, please tell your governor/friend, Michelle Lujan Grisham, “We see her, we hear her, we love her, and we know we need her.”

Groups here that made good use of allies before the pandemic are making good, well-planned use of us now, especially for those in the shadows, by necessity or oversight, to address basic food and medical insecurity. 

And thank you, too, Henry and others on xmca.

Relatively healthy (AKA no Co-vid19 that we know of and well masked – my favorite right now is an easily washed and bleached homemade one with a blue lamb motive – anyone need a pdf for making adult or child masks, with or without hepa-filters?) and safe,

Peg

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Hi All,

Like Greg, I was struck by Andy’s sense that China may go back to “normal” but the neo-liberal “first" world is and will be experiencing a profound perizhvanie. You’d hope it will be for the good.

In the U.S,, generally, rates of infection are positively correlated with density of population. For example, I live in New Mexico, the fifth largest state in the U.S. with a population of a little over a one million and the lowest rate of infection…so far. However, our Navajo live spread out to the west and north of us, but have very high rates of infection. Little Zia Pueblo, just an our by car to the north and west of us, only has about a thousand people, with eleven confirmed cases. Poverty. In the country as a whole people of color have relatively higher rates of infection. Poverty.

Our governor, Michelle Lujan Grisham (who I am proud to say is a good friend), has been successful in pushing baci against Trump’s efforts to punish states that did not vote for him by being less than cooperative in providing resources against the pandemic. She has been using her bully pulpit against Trump's bloviating. His hot air has got to be an infectious agent. Most of us are using masks in public, evidence indicating that it protects OTHERS by wearing them. Trump prefers NOT to wear a mask. Consistent with his politics. You can’t make this up.

Be well,

Henry

On Apr 8, 2020, at 9:00 AM, Greg Thompson < <mailto:greg.a.thompson@gmail.com> greg.a.thompson@gmail.com> wrote:

David,

I wonder if you could say more about your experience of the state-based "surveillance" in SK. There are lots of different groups in the U.S., both on the left and the right, who are up in arms about the "tracking" of citizens via credit card and cell phone usage.

And it sounds like this is a global concern as Mary's report from SA suggests.

Also how interesting how similar the conspiracy theories are around the globe (globalization and the spread of viral ideas?). That's world perezhivanie indeed!

-greg

On Tue, Apr 7, 2020 at 3:08 PM David Kellogg < <mailto:dkellogg60@gmail.com> dkellogg60@gmail.com> wrote:

Helena--

Situation in China, courtesy my sister-in-law: life in Beijing is pretty much back to normal at least on the face of it. People are going out to their work units (but there is more work from home than before the crisis). Classes still largely taught from ZOOM. My nephew is in Shanghai, where the situation is somewhat tighter (proximity to Wuhan). Wuhan opened up for real yesterday--people can leave (I lived there for two years in the mid-eighties, but I can barely recognize what I see on the news now....) I have students in Chengdu (who attend my class via ZOOM). People are mostly shopping on line with delivery to the gate of the housing unit rather than to their flat (as we do here in Korea). Air quality better than it's been in decades.

Situation here in South Korea: We just extended our lockdown for another two weeks. This is in response to a few days of new infections over a hundred, but the infections are mostly (80%) Koreans from the US and Europe who want to live in a place where the medical system has not broken down or is not in the process of breaking down. There are still some "hotspots" of community transmission, but these are almost all connected with churches or PC cafes. Schools reopen on the 16th, but only online. We have elections in a week, and there is a lot of campaigning going on, including the usual street based campaigning (the right wing opposition campaigns around the curious notion that the government has done absolutely nothing, and the government ignores everybody who is not an actual virus). People shop in stores, and there is no panic buying or disruption of supply chains. The main changes in economic life seem to have to do with transport, and it seems like this too will be permanent (electric scooters are everywhere now). Bowing instead of shaking hands is really not a bad idea, and coffee-shops always were over-rated and over-priced.... 

But what about you, Helena? (One of the things I have learned on this list is that you get more or less what you give--people tend to use what you write as a model for writing back!) Are you still in Vietnam? Your address says Berkeley and your email says Illinois--those are three very different venues for the virus and the economy. Can you give us a brief account of the situation in each?

Stay safe, wherever you are!

David Kellogg

Sangmyung University

Book Review: 'Fees, Beets, and Music: A critical perusal of Critical Pedagogy and Marx, Vygotsky and Freire: Phenomenal forms and  educational action research 

in Mind Culture and Activity

 <https://www.tandfonline.com/doi/full/10.1080/10749039.2020.1745847> https://www.tandfonline.com/doi/full/10.1080/10749039.2020.1745847

Some free e-prints available at:

 <https://www.tandfonline.com/eprint/QBBGIZNKAHPMM4ZVCWVX/full?target=10.1080/10749039.2020.1745847> https://www.tandfonline.com/eprint/QBBGIZNKAHPMM4ZVCWVX/full?target=10.1080/10749039.2020.1745847

New Translation with Nikolai Veresov: "L.S. Vygotsky's Pedological Works Volume One: Foundations of Pedology"

  <https://www.springer.com/gp/book/9789811505270> https://www.springer.com/gp/book/9789811505270

On Wed, Apr 8, 2020 at 4:30 AM Martin Packer < <mailto:mpacker@cantab.net> mpacker@cantab.net> wrote:

Hi Helena,

I share your concerns. And, despite its challenges, this situation seems a great opportunity to apply our distributed expertise(s). I tried to get some discussion going in a group concerned with the Anthropocene, but people seemed disinclined.

Martin

Here’s the first message that I sent…

The current situation is producing important evidence about the probable consequences of the strategies proposed to mitigate climate change. Satellites are showing significant reductions in pollution:

 <https://www.space.com/italy-coronavirus-outbreak-response-reduces-emissions-satellite-images.html> https://www.space.com/italy-coronavirus-outbreak-response-reduces-emissions-satellite-images.html

Experts are suggesting that as a result the coronavirus may save more lives than it takes:

 <https://www.forbes.com/sites/jeffmcmahon/2020/03/11/coronavirus-lockdown-may-save-more-lives-from-pollution-and-climate-than-from-virus/#4a39bb3c5764> https://www.forbes.com/sites/jeffmcmahon/2020/03/11/coronavirus-lockdown-may-save-more-lives-from-pollution-and-climate-than-from-virus/#4a39bb3c5764

So when skeptics ask “How can you know that reducing air travel will help with climate change?” there is now clear evidence with which to answer them.

Also in China:

 <https://www.npr.org/sections/goatsandsoda/2020/03/04/811019032/why-chinas-air-has-been-cleaner-during-the-coronavirus-outbreak> https://www.npr.org/sections/goatsandsoda/2020/03/04/811019032/why-chinas-air-has-been-cleaner-during-the-coronavirus-outbreak

At the same time, I am starting to wonder whether the current health guidelines regarding coronvirus are culturally biased. Can they work in ‘collectivist’ cultures (to use the shorthand)? The CDC guidelines, for example, include the recommendations to “Stay home when you are sick,” but also that other members of the household should “Avoid close contact with people who are sick” and should “Choose a room in your home that can be used to separate sick household members from those who are healthy. Identify a separate bathroom for the sick person to use, if possible.”  

This advice is simply not practicable for many households in Colombia. There are not enough rooms; there is no second bathroom. In addition, many infants and young children here are cared for by grandparents, or even great-grandparents (many women here have a baby when young, so an infant may have a grandmother who is in her late 30s and a great-grandmother in her late 50s). The evidence shows that children don’t become very ill, but they do get infected and they can infect other people, among whom elderly caregivers will be the most at risk.

So I don’t think social distance and auto-quarantine will work in Colombia. Consider what the Chinese did: they went door-to-door to identify infected family members and removed them to massive collective quarantine setttings. People in the West considered this to be draconian, even cruel. But it made sense: much more cross-infection occurred in Chinese homes than in places like restaurants. 

Unless the authorities can come up with strategies that are more appropriate to local circumstances and practices, there is likely to be a rapid and elevated peak of infections in Latin American countries.

And I see there is a related point here, on ageism: 

 <https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2020/03/200313155256.htm> https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2020/03/200313155256.htm

On Apr 7, 2020, at 1:56 PM, Helena Worthen < <mailto:helenaworthen@gmail.com> helenaworthen@gmail.com> wrote:

Hello, XMCA-ers -

I don’t remember ever having read that this list was going to shut down or even be allowed to fade away. So now I’m writing, as if in the dark, to the whole list.  We’ve now got a major — maybe “the” major crisis of the anthropocene on our hands and the distant but connected network represented by the conversations on this list seem to me to be a treasure more precious than gold - and I’m not speaking metaphorically.

I am concerned about some of the people who have been pillars and resources on his list, people whom I have reached out to over the years and heard back from with information and perspectives that I would never have been able to access on my own. Where are you now? What are you doing? Are you safe and healthy? Do you have information about friends who are unable to read or respond to this request?

I hope to hear some responses to this message.  

Take care of yourselves, please — 

Helena

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