[Xmca-l] Re: General check-in?

Wed Apr 8 14:47:04 PDT 2020

Is the hijab still banned in Paris? Seems like it protects against things
other than sand.

I am still here, working out what to do next. Tutoring the children
presently.

Huw

On Wed, 8 Apr 2020 at 22:15, HENRY SHONERD <hshonerd@gmail.com> wrote:

> Hey Peg!
> Yes, I will tell Governor Michelle you’re rooting for her from where you
> and yours are at! Please forgive my senior moment, but where do YOU live?
>
> My wife Judy figured out how to make a mask from a bandana and two hair
> ties. Like I’m ready to rob the stage coach, full of ppe (personal
> protective equipment).:) I saw a cartoon of Trump and his underlings at one
> of his you-can’t-make-it-up briefings. They are wearing masks that cover
> nose and mouth. Trump has a Lone Ranger mask. Here’s a link for those short
> on Americana:
>
> https://www.pinterest.com/robertharmon311/lone-ranger-mask-patterns-for-save-ranger-challeng/
>
> Stay safe and well!
> Henry
>
>
>
>
> On Apr 8, 2020, at 11:27 AM, Peg Griffin, Ph.D. <Peg.Griffin@att.net>
> wrote:
>
> Henry, please tell your governor/friend, Michelle Lujan Grisham, “We see
> her, we hear her, we love her, and we know we need her.”
>
> Groups here that made good use of allies before the pandemic are making
> good, well-planned use of us now, especially for those in the shadows, by
> necessity or oversight, to address basic food and medical insecurity.
>
> And thank you, too, Henry and others on xmca.
>
> Relatively healthy (AKA no Co-vid19 that we know of and well masked – my
> favorite right now is an easily washed and bleached homemade one with a
> blue lamb motive – anyone need a pdf for making adult or child masks, with
> or without hepa-filters?) and safe,
> Peg
>
> *From:* xmca-l-bounces@mailman.ucsd.edu [
> mailto:xmca-l-bounces@mailman.ucsd.edu <xmca-l-bounces@mailman.ucsd.edu>] *On
> Behalf Of *HENRY SHONERD
> *Sent:* Wednesday, April 8, 2020 12:48 PM
> *To:* eXtended Mind, Culture, Activity <xmca-l@mailman.ucsd.edu>
> *Subject:* [Xmca-l] Re: General check-in?
>
> Hi All,
> Like Greg, I was struck by Andy’s sense that China may go back to “normal”
> but the neo-liberal “first" world is and will be experiencing a profound
> perizhvanie. You’d hope it will be for the good.
>
> In the U.S,, generally, rates of infection are positively correlated with
> density of population. For example, I live in New Mexico, the fifth largest
> state in the U.S. with a population of a little over a one million and the
> lowest rate of infection…so far. However, our Navajo live spread out to the
> west and north of us, but have very high rates of infection. Little Zia
> Pueblo, just an our by car to the north and west of us, only has about a
> thousand people, with eleven confirmed cases. Poverty. In the country as a
> whole people of color have relatively higher rates of infection. Poverty.
>
> Our governor, Michelle Lujan Grisham (who I am proud to say is a good
> friend), has been successful in pushing baci against Trump’s efforts to
> punish states that did not vote for him by being less than cooperative in
> providing resources against the pandemic. She has been using her bully
> pulpit against Trump's bloviating. His hot air has got to be an infectious
> agent. Most of us are using masks in public, evidence indicating that it
> protects OTHERS by wearing them. Trump prefers NOT to wear a mask.
> Consistent with his politics. You can’t make this up.
>
> Be well,
> Henry
>
>
> On Apr 8, 2020, at 9:00 AM, Greg Thompson <greg.a.thompson@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
> David,
>
> I wonder if you could say more about your experience of the state-based
> "surveillance" in SK. There are lots of different groups in the U.S., both
> on the left and the right, who are up in arms about the "tracking" of
> citizens via credit card and cell phone usage.
>
> And it sounds like this is a global concern as Mary's report from SA
> suggests.
>
> Also how interesting how similar the conspiracy theories are around the
> globe (globalization and the spread of viral ideas?). That's world
> perezhivanie indeed!
>
> -greg
>
> On Tue, Apr 7, 2020 at 3:08 PM David Kellogg <dkellogg60@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> Helena--
>
> Situation in China, courtesy my sister-in-law: life in Beijing is pretty
> much back to normal at least on the face of it. People are going out to
> their work units (but there is more work from home than before the
> crisis). Classes still largely taught from ZOOM. My nephew is in
> Shanghai, where the situation is somewhat tighter (proximity to
> Wuhan). Wuhan opened up for real yesterday--people can leave (I lived there
> for two years in the mid-eighties, but I can barely recognize what I see on
> the news now....) I have students in Chengdu (who attend my class via
> ZOOM). People are mostly shopping on line with delivery to the gate of the
> housing unit rather than to their flat (as we do here in Korea). Air
> quality better than it's been in decades.
>
> Situation here in South Korea: We just extended our lockdown for another
> two weeks. This is in response to a few days of new infections over a
> hundred, but the infections are mostly (80%) Koreans from the US and Europe
> who want to live in a place where the medical system has not broken down or
> is not in the process of breaking down. There are still some "hotspots" of
> community transmission, but these are almost all connected with churches or
> PC cafes. Schools reopen on the 16th, but only online. We have elections in
> a week, and there is a lot of campaigning going on, including the usual
> street based campaigning (the right wing opposition campaigns around the
> curious notion that the government has done absolutely nothing, and the
> government ignores everybody who is not an actual virus). People shop in
> stores, and there is no panic buying or disruption of supply chains. The
> main changes in economic life seem to have to do with transport, and it
> seems like this too will be permanent (electric scooters are everywhere
> now). Bowing instead of shaking hands is really not a bad idea, and
> coffee-shops always were over-rated and over-priced....
>
> But what about you, Helena? (One of the things I have learned on this list
> is that you get more or less what you give--people tend to use what you
> write as a model for writing back!) Are you still in Vietnam? Your address
> says Berkeley and your email says Illinois--those are three very different
> venues for the virus and the economy. Can you give us a brief account of
> the situation in each?
>
> Stay safe, wherever you are!
>
> David Kellogg
> Sangmyung University
>
> Book Review: 'Fees, Beets, and Music: A critical perusal of *Critical
> Pedagogy and Marx, Vygotsky and Freire: Phenomenal forms and  educational
> action research *
> in *Mind Culture and Activity*
>
> *https://www.tandfonline.com/doi/full/10.1080/10749039.2020.1745847
> <https://www.tandfonline.com/doi/full/10.1080/10749039.2020.1745847>*
>
> Some free e-prints available at:
>
>
> https://www.tandfonline.com/eprint/QBBGIZNKAHPMM4ZVCWVX/full?target=10.1080/10749039.2020.1745847
>
> New Translation with Nikolai Veresov: "L.S. Vygotsky's Pedological Works
> Volume One: Foundations of Pedology"
>
>  https://www.springer.com/gp/book/9789811505270
>
>
>
> On Wed, Apr 8, 2020 at 4:30 AM Martin Packer <mpacker@cantab.net> wrote:
>
> Hi Helena,
>
> I share your concerns. And, despite its challenges, this situation seems a
> great opportunity to apply our distributed expertise(s). I tried to get
> some discussion going in a group concerned with the Anthropocene, but
> people seemed disinclined.
>
> Martin
>
> Here’s the first message that I sent…
>
> The current situation is producing important evidence about the probable
> consequences of the strategies proposed to mitigate climate change.
> Satellites are showing significant reductions in pollution:
>
> https://www.space.com/italy-coronavirus-outbreak-response-reduces-emissions-satellite-images.html
> Experts are suggesting that as a result the coronavirus may save more
> lives than it takes:
>
> https://www.forbes.com/sites/jeffmcmahon/2020/03/11/coronavirus-lockdown-may-save-more-lives-from-pollution-and-climate-than-from-virus/#4a39bb3c5764
> So when skeptics ask “How can you know that reducing air travel will help
> with climate change?” there is now clear evidence with which to answer them.
>
> Also in China:
>
> https://www.npr.org/sections/goatsandsoda/2020/03/04/811019032/why-chinas-air-has-been-cleaner-during-the-coronavirus-outbreak
>
> At the same time, I am starting to wonder whether the current health
> guidelines regarding coronvirus are culturally biased. Can they work in
> ‘collectivist’ cultures (to use the shorthand)? The CDC guidelines, for
> example, include the recommendations to “Stay home when you are sick,” but
> also that other members of the household should “Avoid close contact with
> people who are sick” and should “Choose a room in your home that can be
> used to separate sick household members from those who are healthy.
> Identify a separate bathroom for the sick person to use, if possible.”
> This advice is simply not practicable for many households in Colombia.
> There are not enough rooms; there is no second bathroom. In addition, many
> infants and young children here are cared for by grandparents, or even
> great-grandparents (many women here have a baby when young, so an infant
> may have a grandmother who is in her late 30s and a great-grandmother in
> her late 50s). The evidence shows that children don’t become very ill, but
> they do get infected and they can infect other people, among whom elderly
> caregivers will be the most at risk.
> So I don’t think social distance and auto-quarantine will work in
> Colombia. Consider what the Chinese did: they went door-to-door to identify
> infected family members and removed them to massive collective quarantine
> setttings. People in the West considered this to be draconian, even cruel.
> But it made sense: much more cross-infection occurred in Chinese homes than
> in places like restaurants.
> Unless the authorities can come up with strategies that are more
> appropriate to local circumstances and practices, there is likely to be a
> rapid and elevated peak of infections in Latin American countries.
>
> And I see there is a related point here, on ageism:
> https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2020/03/200313155256.htm
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> On Apr 7, 2020, at 1:56 PM, Helena Worthen <helenaworthen@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
> Hello, XMCA-ers -
>
> I don’t remember ever having read that this list was going to shut down or
> even be allowed to fade away. So now I’m writing, as if in the dark, to the
> whole list.  We’ve now got a major — maybe “the” major crisis of the
> anthropocene on our hands and the distant but connected network represented
> by the conversations on this list seem to me to be a treasure more precious
> than gold - and I’m not speaking metaphorically.
>
> I am concerned about some of the people who have been pillars and
> resources on his list, people whom I have reached out to over the years and
> heard back from with information and perspectives that I would never have
> been able to access on my own. Where are you now? What are you doing? Are
> you safe and healthy? Do you have information about friends who are unable
> to read or respond to this request?
>
> I hope to hear some responses to this message.
>
> Take care of yourselves, please —
>
> Helena
>
>
> Helena Worthen
> hworthen@illinois.edu
> 21 San Mateo Road, Berkeley, CA 94707
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> Assistant Professor
> Department of Anthropology
> 880 Spencer W. Kimball Tower
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> Provo, UT 84602
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