[Xmca-l] Re: The Mindset.

[James Ma]

Hello Harshad,
One thing certain is that, from an ethological perspective, both human and
non-human animals have innate releasing mechanisms (IRMs) allowing them to
respond to stimuli encountered in the environment. I don't think voluntary
control in thought or action comes and goes solitarily; rather it is
foreshadowed by or tinged with involuntary control.
James


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On Tue, 20 Aug 2019 at 05:12, Harshad Dave <hhdave15@gmail.com> wrote:

>
>
> James,
> Thanks for your view point. What you say there in is convincing, but do
> animals sustain any undue deformation in their mind that might project
> adverse effect in their original natural performance? I agree it is very
> difficult to ascertain. For example, we find people that are very
> conservative or some people are victim of habit of contracting
> preoccupation of their mind while dealing with outside world, and due to
> this, their performance becomes inefficient or they also risk failure in
> the task.Do we find such deformation in animals?
> with regards,
>
> Harshad Dave
>
>
> On Tue, Aug 20, 2019 at 2:30 AM James Ma <jamesma320@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> I think one of the central issues is that animals are not conceptual
>> beings whereas humans are - this is more of a gripping point, as I see it.
>> For example, dogs can recognise or differentiate colours; however, they
>> don't have the concept of colour.
>> One might even think that animals have morals, but this is perhaps simply
>> a human interpretation!
>>
>> James
>>
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>> *James Ma  Independent Scholar **https://oxford.academia.edu/JamesMa
>> <https://oxford.academia.edu/JamesMa>   *
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>> On Sun, 18 Aug 2019 at 15:12, Annalie Pistorius <
>> annalie.pistorius@smu.ac.za> wrote:
>>
>>> Thank you Harshad, I got the file and read it. “Mindset” sounds like the
>>> something all motivational speakers and writers and philosophers try to
>>> answer and work with and they call out different things.
>>>
>>> *From your document, it sounds like you are saying that mindset is an
>>> activity of reflection and an orientation?*
>>>
>>> *Annalie  *
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>>> *From: xmca-l-bounces@mailman.ucsd.edu <xmca-l-bounces@mailman.ucsd.edu>
>>> <xmca-l-bounces@mailman.ucsd.edu <xmca-l-bounces@mailman.ucsd.edu>> On
>>> Behalf Of Harshad DaveSent: Sunday, 18 August 2019 3:10 PMTo: eXtended
>>> Mind, Culture, Activity <xmca-l@mailman.ucsd.edu
>>> <xmca-l@mailman.ucsd.edu>>Subject: [Xmca-l] Re: The Mindset.*
>>>
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>>> *Hi Annalie,*
>>>
>>> *I got your point and herewith I attach a docs file where I have
>>> explained my views that interprets exactly what I understand about
>>> "mindset" of a man. I want that all the participants of this discussion
>>> should have excess to this file but I have not adequate grip in operating
>>> this email_application of xmca-l so please help me confirming if you get
>>> the excess or not. Further to this, the write up on mindset there in the
>>> attached file is a part of an article that I write presently and it is on
>>> different subject matter of social issue where mindset of man is a prime
>>> influencing parameter and that compelled me to be clear on mindset. When I
>>> wrote on mindset of a man as one of the topic of the article under my pen,
>>> I found it necessary to peep into wild life system if animals are also
>>> victim of this frame work of mindset or it is just in human social system
>>> only.*
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> *with regards,   *
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> *Harshad Dave*
>>>
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>>> *On Sun, Aug 18, 2019 at 5:15 PM Annalie Pistorius
>>> <annalie.pistorius@smu.ac.za <annalie.pistorius@smu.ac.za>> wrote:*
>>>
>>> *Hello Harshad,*
>>>
>>> *There is Eugene Marais in South Africa who studied baboons and termites
>>> with a similar question re “the soul of the ape/ant” – group behaviour that
>>> is created rather than instinctual, with interesting theorising (I must
>>> read myself). We need to shift our mindset to not separate man from animal,
>>> appreciating interconnectedness and relationality perhaps, and this writer
>>> was writing in this way. The second link will take you to a PDF file. *
>>>
>>> *https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/4198597-the-soul-of-the-ape
>>> <https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/4198597-the-soul-of-the-ape>*
>>>
>>> *https://www.radiantlunatic.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/10/TheSoulOfTheWhiteAnt.pdf
>>> <https://www.radiantlunatic.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/10/TheSoulOfTheWhiteAnt.pdf>*
>>>
>>> *But it looks like maybe you are asking how we do things contrary to the
>>> good judgement and abilities that we have. Maybe you can clarify for us a
>>> particular dilemma you have in mind, how you see this mindset, is it
>>> something such as even though people have empathy and social skills, they
>>> have a mindset that justifies them to hurt some people to reach their
>>> goals?*
>>>
>>> *Regards*
>>>
>>> *Annalie*
>>>
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>>> *From: xmca-l-bounces@mailman.ucsd.edu <xmca-l-bounces@mailman.ucsd.edu>
>>> <xmca-l-bounces@mailman.ucsd.edu <xmca-l-bounces@mailman.ucsd.edu>> On
>>> Behalf Of Harshad DaveSent: Saturday, 17 August 2019 11:08 AMTo: eXtended
>>> Mind, Culture, Activity <xmca-l@mailman.ucsd.edu
>>> <xmca-l@mailman.ucsd.edu>>Subject: [Xmca-l] The Mindset.*
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> *Hi all,*
>>>
>>> *You will agree that no man in this world is free from his mindset that
>>> he developed during the journey of his growth from childhood to his
>>> prevailing age. His mindset plays an influential role while he deals with
>>> outside world. Even if the person has competent abilities, his mindset may
>>> not permit the application of his appropriate abilities at right time and
>>> on event, as if it (mindset) is a filter put before application of
>>> abilities. Presently I am working on it and I need your help at one point.*
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> *"Do animals have mindset or they are free from it?"*
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> *with true regards,*
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> *Harshad Dave  *
>>>
>>>
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