[Xmca-l] Re: anachronism

[Douglas Williams]

I feel the need to say something like "I'm totally owning the libs," and use emojis
It is interesting that as we move to more hostile forms of speech, they often seem to demand a more gestural, to borrow a phrase, "primitive" form of expression. Emotional engagement literally seems to leave us in a world disempowered of speech. 
Regards,Doug
    On ‎Monday‎, ‎September‎ ‎17‎, ‎2018‎ ‎09‎:‎17‎:‎52‎ ‎AM‎ ‎PDT, robsub@ariadne.org.uk <robsub@ariadne.org.uk> wrote:  
 
  There is a word for that: trolling.
 
 On 17/09/2018 16:41, HENRY SHONERD wrote:
  
 
 What if someone intentionally violates some one elses decorum, knows full well it will rankle, even enrage? This happens these days a lot on the internet, especially anonymously.  Henry 
  
 On Sep 17, 2018, at 4:03 AM, Andy Blunden <andyb@marxists.org> wrote: 
  
 
Nice one, Rob, a ever. But that is an explanation for a cultural faux pas, not the act itself. A fish out of water can still behave  correctly,
 
 
andy
 
   Andy Blunden
 http://www.ethicalpolitics.org/ablunden/index.htm  On 17/09/2018 7:58 PM, robsub@ariadne.org.uk wrote:
  
 
 "Fish out of water"?
 
 On 17/09/2018 10:41, Huw Lloyd wrote:
  
 
Andy, 
  I think you mean "from a different culture" rather than "out(side) of a culture". So anachronism refer in this context to an  utterance that is from a different time (and culture) applied to the contemporary. So I think the sense that you are looking for is "projection", or "cultural projection". 
  Huw 
  On Sun, 16 Sep 2018 at 06:33, Andy Blunden <andyb@marxists.org> wrote:
  
  
Yes, I mean it in the sense Boas meant when he first used it in the plural - "cultures".
 
I liked Helena's observation, of all the words we have for people who don't belong to the relevant culture, but I mean  a word to describe ideas, claims, beliefs which are "blind" to the incongruity of the idea with the relevant cultural context. This is often a kind of anachronism, but not always. The lack of a  word arose in a controversy here in Oz when US cultural norms were used to judge an action in an Oz cultural context. ... That drew my attention to the lack of a word, but I don't want to discuss the  issue itself on this list.
 
 
Andy
 
   Andy Blunden
 http://www.ethicalpolitics.org/ablunden/index.htm  On 16/09/2018 3:21 PM, Greg Thompson wrote:
  
  Andy, Yes, it might depend on what you mean by "culture". No need to get into the battles over the word as  anthropology has over the past 30 years but it would be worth knowing what you mean.  
  For example, David's reference to Vygotsky's very fashionable (yes, at that time...) term "primitive" relies on a rather old fashioned meaning of culture as "refinement" and  "development." Thus E. B. Tylor's title Primitive Culture was anachronistic (in the sense of an idea before its time) because, on this common understanding of these terms, "primitive culture" was an oxymoron.  
  I assume that you mean culture in the sense that anthropologists use it today (or, I  should say, as they used to use it not so long ago). Is that right? 
  -greg  
  On Sat, Sep 15, 2018 at 8:40 PM Andy Blunden <andyb@marxists.org> wrote:
  
  
Everyone knows what "anachronism" means. "Out of time" so to speak.
 
Is there a word for "out of culture"?
 
Andy
 
 
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