[Xmca-l] Re: anachronism

[robsub@ariadne.org.uk]

There is a word for that: trolling.

On 17/09/2018 16:41, HENRY SHONERD wrote:
> What if someone intentionally violates some one elses decorum, knows 
> full well it will rankle, even enrage? This happens these days a lot 
> on the internet, especially anonymously.
> Henry
>
>> On Sep 17, 2018, at 4:03 AM, Andy Blunden <andyb@marxists.org 
>> <mailto:andyb@marxists.org>> wrote:
>>
>> Nice one, Rob, a ever. But that is an explanation for a cultural faux 
>> pas, not the act itself. A fish out of water can still behave correctly,
>>
>> andy
>>
>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
>> Andy Blunden
>> http://www.ethicalpolitics.org/ablunden/index.htm
>> On 17/09/2018 7:58 PM, robsub@ariadne.org.uk wrote:
>>> "Fish out of water"?
>>>
>>> On 17/09/2018 10:41, Huw Lloyd wrote:
>>>> Andy,
>>>>
>>>> I think you mean "from a different culture" rather than "out(side) 
>>>> of a culture". So anachronism refer in this context to an utterance 
>>>> that is from a different time (and culture) applied to the 
>>>> contemporary. So I think the sense that you are looking for is 
>>>> "projection", or "cultural projection".
>>>>
>>>> Huw
>>>>
>>>> On Sun, 16 Sep 2018 at 06:33, Andy Blunden <andyb@marxists.org 
>>>> <mailto:andyb@marxists.org>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>     Yes, I mean it in the sense Boas meant when he first used it in
>>>>     the plural - "cultures".
>>>>
>>>>     I liked Helena's observation, of all the words we have for
>>>>     people who don't belong to the relevant culture, but I mean a
>>>>     word to describe ideas, claims, beliefs which are "blind" to
>>>>     the incongruity of the idea with the relevant cultural context.
>>>>     This is often a kind of anachronism, but not always. The lack
>>>>     of a word arose in a controversy here in Oz when US cultural
>>>>     norms were used to judge an action in an Oz cultural context.
>>>>     ... That drew my attention to the lack of a word, but I don't
>>>>     want to discuss the issue itself on this list.
>>>>
>>>>     Andy
>>>>
>>>>     ------------------------------------------------------------------------
>>>>     Andy Blunden
>>>>     http://www.ethicalpolitics.org/ablunden/index.htm
>>>>     On 16/09/2018 3:21 PM, Greg Thompson wrote:
>>>>>     Andy,
>>>>>     Yes, it might depend on what you mean by "culture". No need to
>>>>>     get into the battles over the word as anthropology has over
>>>>>     the past 30 years but it would be worth knowing what you mean.
>>>>>
>>>>>     For example, David's reference to Vygotsky's very fashionable
>>>>>     (yes, at that time...) term "primitive" relies on a rather old
>>>>>     fashioned meaning of culture as "refinement" and
>>>>>     "development." Thus E. B. Tylor's title Primitive Culture was
>>>>>     anachronistic (in the sense of an idea before its time)
>>>>>     because, on this common understanding of these terms,
>>>>>     "primitive culture" was an oxymoron.
>>>>>
>>>>>     I assume that you mean culture in the sense that
>>>>>     anthropologists use it today (or, I should say, as they used
>>>>>     to use it not so long ago). Is that right?
>>>>>
>>>>>     -greg
>>>>>
>>>>>     On Sat, Sep 15, 2018 at 8:40 PM Andy Blunden
>>>>>     <andyb@marxists.org> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>         Everyone knows what "anachronism" means. "Out of time" so
>>>>>         to speak.
>>>>>
>>>>>         Is there a word for "out of culture"?
>>>>>
>>>>>         Andy
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>         -- 
>>>>>         ------------------------------------------------------------------------
>>>>>         Andy Blunden
>>>>>         http://www.ethicalpolitics.org/ablunden/index.htm
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>     -- 
>>>>>     Gregory A. Thompson, Ph.D.
>>>>>     Assistant Professor
>>>>>     Department of Anthropology
>>>>>     880 Spencer W. Kimball Tower
>>>>>     Brigham Young University
>>>>>     Provo, UT 84602
>>>>>     WEBSITE: greg.a.thompson.byu.edu
>>>>>     <http://greg.a.thompson.byu.edu/>
>>>>>     http://byu.academia.edu/GregoryThompson
>>>>
>>>
>>
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