[Xmca-l] Отв: Re: Crisis of Social Psychology

[Alexander Surmava]

Dear Ulvi

Just a brief eyewitness account: Before the collapse of the Warsaw Pact and the USSR social psychology was partly under the ban partially was a complete copy of Western social psychology. No Marxist social psychology in the USSR did not even exist because any truly scientific (=Marxist) study of social psychology of the Soviet man would have inevitably discovere that the relations of production in the USSR are entirely alienated nature and all the arguments about mass socialist labour enthusiasm are blatant propaganda.. The Warsaw Pact didn't sponsored research in the field of social psychology not because the Soviet generals respect the independence of scientific research, but because they believed Kalashnicovs, tanks and atomic bombs more effective means of struggle with Western rivals than any psychology.

Sasha 

    суббота, 16 сентября 2017 2:00 Ulvi İçil <ulvi.icil@gmail.com> писал(а):
 

 Ultra interesting.

Peter can you kindly elaborate a little more on the involvement of nato
about the (possible) development of social psychology please, even very
shortly.
Then, after dissolution of Warsaw Pact and Ussr, I am afraid social
psychology should be highly probably in the hands of imperialist
institutions like Nato. Well if not in the hands, highly intervened by it.
Perhaps you can kindly have some facts about this latter to share please.

A good article title isn't it?

Social psychology  and the nurse Nato.

What about  Stalin evil and social psychology?

Oh, nato is such a clean institution than cpsu.

It is apparent that if Cpsu and stalin does not intervene in psychology,
then nato does it and there is not a middle.

I ask myself:
Why cpsu intervention in science is not shy while such interventions in
science are rather shy in contrast?
May the reason be that cpsu knew that its was legitimitate and nato knew
that on the contrary illegitimate in peoples' eyes?

It is nice complot against humanity. Blame Stalin for intervening in
science while intervening in science  with nato.

I am sure: Science will be very scientific with nato intervention.
So nato does not emancipate peoples in ex yugoslavia territory but also
social psychology.

many thanks to nato.





14 Eyl 2017 15:05 tarihinde "Peter Franks" <peterefranks@gmail.com> yazdı:

Hi Alfredo,

Thanks for the query and interest.

The cover is a painting by Oroszco the Mexican painter from the 1930's. It
comes from a series of Freezes he painted on the walls of Dartmouth
University's library, now the Hoodmuseum that I used to visit while working
on the dissertation during the 70's. It does represent the basic impotence
of liberal science, The series is called The Epic of American Civilization
and is an extensive mural cycle created by Mexican artist José Clemente
Orozco between 1932 and 1934.The crisis I am particularly referring to was
the one in American Social Psychology which led to the calling of a
conference at Carleton University under the auspices of Nato to discuss the
way forward. At the time I ,was a member of the PsychAgitator based at the
State University of New York at Stony Brook's Social Psychology Department
which objected to the idea that NATO and the elite group of social
psychologists could determine the way forward for Social Psychology. This
situation has recently received some attention largely as the crisis of
Social Psychology was never really resolved and it becomes urgent as neo
liberalism collapses.


José Clemente *Orozco* (November 23, 1883 – September 7, 1949) was a
Mexican painter, who specialized in political *murals* that established the
Mexican *Mural* Renaissance together with *murals* by Diego Rivera, David
Alfaro Siqueiros, and others.

The following analysis sums it up.

The cycle is crucial in illustrating out a fundamental difference between
Orozco and his contemporary Mexican muralists. For instance, Rivera
represented the same general theme but infused it with optimism; his cycle
characterizes white European colonialism as progress rather than
deterioration. Orozco, on the other hand, made the later panels of this
cycle grotesquely mirror the beginning ones: *Ancient Human Sacrifice*
 becomes *Modern Human Sacrifice* in such a way that there's no progress at
all, but merely the exchanging of one barbaric behavior for another much
like it. Thus Orozco brought introspection, criticism, and ambiguity to
Mexican muralism as none of his contemporaries had done.

So. Yes it does reflect my views of Social Psychology at the time.....

Kind regards

Peter


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On Thu, Sep 14, 2017 at 1:05 PM, Alfredo Jornet Gil <a.j.gil@iped.uio.no>
wrote:

> Thanks for sharing, Peter. Two questions having just seen the front cover
> and downloaded the file. First, the front cover picture is quite dramatic
> and intriguing, Is there something about it in the book or that you could
> tell us here (artist, why)? Second, which crisis you refer to in
particular
> and is it over now?
>
> Alfredo
> ________________________________________
> From: xmca-l-bounces@mailman.ucsd.edu <xmca-l-bounces@mailman.ucsd.edu>
> on behalf of Peter Franks <peterefranks@gmail.com>
> Sent: 14 September 2017 09:56
> To: xmca-l@mailman.ucsd.edu
> Subject: [Xmca-l]  Crisis of Social Psychology
>
> The following was written during the 1970's crisis although it received
> scant attention at that time it does perhaps contribute to the
> understanding of that crisis.
>
> https://www.academia.edu/8519216/A_Social_History_of_
> American_Social_Psychology_up_to_the_second_world_war_1975_2011
>
> I would be interested in comments.
>
>
>
> *Prof. Peter E. Franks PhD*
>
> Professor Extraordinary,
> School of Public Leadership
> University of Stellenbosch
> Former Deputy Vice Chancellor
> University of Limpopo
>
> 44 Firmount Road
> Somerset West
> 7130
> Tel: Home: 021 851 9764
>        Cell:  082 200 5977
> peterefranks@gmail.com
> https://sun.academia.edu/PeterEmanuelFranks
>
> For rare and collectible books, Africana and books of special interest
> visit bookhuntersden.co.za
>
>