[Xmca-l] Re: job-CSU Sacramento

[mike cole]

Not my pint, Kris... Julian’s.
Why not send around your paper?
Mike

On Wed, Oct 18, 2017 at 8:40 AM Kris Gutierrez <gutierkd@gmail.com> wrote:

> Apropos your comment Mike,  Fred Erickson and I wrote a relevant piece
> entitled “Culture and Rigor” (Ed Researcher, 2002) that aligns with your
> point.
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> > On Oct 18, 2017, at 8:22 AM, mike cole <mcole@ucsd.edu> wrote:
> >
> > Hi Julian & Huw-
> >
> > This seems just right to me:
> >
> > Every quantitative analysis/result demands a qualitative
> > framework/interpretation; and almost all, or anyway more than we think
> > qualitative research opens the possibility of quantitative models.
> >
> > And its interesting to think of quality as a "measure" of systems
> > properties. Sounds positively quantitative!
> >
> > mike
> >
> >
> >
> > On Wed, Oct 18, 2017 at 12:59 AM, Julian Williams <
> > julian.williams@manchester.ac.uk> wrote:
> >
> >> Lynda
> >>
> >> Just to say for the list that I appreciate your need for qualitative
> >> expertise, especially in a culture where perhaps 'quantitative
> researchers'
> >> dominate (here its the opposite: we have a struggle to keep some
> >> quantitative courses on our training programmes).
> >>
> >> Innumerate/illiterate may sound unkind and if so I apologise: no offence
> >> meant.
> >>
> >> I still sigh at the term 'qualitative researcher' and even more
> >> 'quantitative researcher', which seems often to imply a specialism and
> even
> >> a closing of doors to new work. Every quantitative analysis/result
> demands
> >> a qualitative framework/interpretation; and almost all, or anyway more
> than
> >> we think qualitative research opens the possibility of quantitative
> models.
> >> If a research identity is bound up with the division we close doors.
> >>
> >> Julian
> >>
> >> ________________________________________
> >> From: xmca-l-bounces@mailman.ucsd.edu [xmca-l-bounces@mailman.ucsd.edu]
> >> on behalf of Kris Gutierrez [gutierkd@gmail.com]
> >> Sent: 18 October 2017 04:53
> >> To: eXtended Mind, Culture, Activity
> >> Subject: [Xmca-l] Re: job-CSU Sacramento
> >>
> >> Well said, Lynda!
> >>
> >> Kris D. Gutiérrez
> >> Carol Liu Professor
> >> Graduate School of Education
> >> Prolepsis Design Collaborative
> >> University of California, Berkeley
> >> 5629 Tolman Hall
> >> Berkeley, CA 94720-1670
> >> gutierrkd@berkeley.edu
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>> On Oct 17, 2017, at 8:30 PM, Stone, Lynda <lstone@skymail.csus.edu>
> >> wrote:
> >>>
> >>> Hi again Julian‹just saw this response.
> >>>
> >>> There was a reason for the qualitative emphasis and it had more to do
> >> with
> >>> competencies with
> >>> qualitative rather than lack of quantitative methodological knowledge‹I
> >> am
> >>> assuming folks would have both.
> >>> However, I have discovered that those who attain there PhD¹s here in
> >>> traditional human development programs (at least those who
> >>> apply for our positions) often have only a superficial knowledge of
> >>> qualitative research and no experience with it, as this is the case
> >>> with many of our faculty who are well trained to do laboratory
> research‹-
> >>> The best approach, of course, is to generate an interesting research
> >>> question and then utilize whatever methods are appropriate for this
> >>> question. So the emphasis in the job call was to meet programmatic
> needs.
> >>> I hope this helps you understand why ³qualitative² was placed in the
> >>> requirement‹ My guess is that degrees in human development in your
> >>> setting might offer course work and practical experience in both
> methods,
> >>> as did my training.
> >>>
> >>> Sincerely,
> >>> -lynda
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> Lynda Stone, Ph.D.
> >>> Professor
> >>> Child Development
> >>> CSUS/UC-Links After-school Program Director
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> On 10/17/17, 2:35 PM, "xmca-l-bounces@mailman.ucsd.edu on behalf of
> >> Julian
> >>> Williams" <xmca-l-bounces@mailman.ucsd.edu on behalf of
> >>> julian.williams@manchester.ac.uk> wrote:
> >>>
> >>>> Lynda
> >>>>
> >>>> Always depressed to see researchers described as 'qualitative'
> >> presumably
> >>>> as opposed to 'quantitative' and therefore presumed to be innumerate,
> >>>> instead perhaps of being illiterate.
> >>>>
> >>>> Sigh.
> >>>>
> >>>> Julian
> >>>>
> >>>>> On 17 Oct 2017, at 21:06, Stone, Lynda <lstone@skymail.csus.edu>
> >> wrote:
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Hello All!
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Here is a description of job opening for a qualitative researcher
> >>>>> grounded in human development and interested in educational settings‹
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Responsibilities include:
> >>>>> € Teaching undergraduate and graduate courses in Child/Human
> >>>>> Development, specifically courses related to qualitative research
> >>>>> methodology and areas of interest;
> >>>>> € Maintaining a rigorous program of research related to school-
> and/or
> >>>>> community-based qualitative research;
> >>>>> € Supervising and sponsoring student scholarship; assisting with
> >>>>> advising and curriculum development/assessment;
> >>>>> € Working collegially with other faculty; and
> >>>>> € Contributing to service in the department, college, university, and
> >>>>> profession.
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Required Qualifications
> >>>>>
> >>>>> € An earned Ph.D. in Child/Human Development, Applied Developmental
> >>>>> Psychology, Developmental Psychology, Developmental Science,
> Education,
> >>>>> and
> >>>>> Psychology, or an equivalent program. ABD candidates will be
> >>>>> considered. If ABD, all degree requirements must be completed by
> August
> >>>>> 2018
> >>>>> € Specialization in qualitative research methods with a strong
> emphasis
> >>>>> in developmental theory.
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Preferred Qualifications
> >>>>>
> >>>>> € Demonstrated leadership potential;
> >>>>> € Interpersonal skills;
> >>>>> € Ability to work with children, students, families, and communities
> >>>>> representing diverse populations from diverse backgrounds;
> >>>>> € Demonstrated experience and effectiveness in college level,
> >>>>> undergraduate, and/or graduate level teaching;
> >>>>> € Clearly defined interdisciplinary program of qualitative research
> and
> >>>>> publication focusing on children, adolescents, and/or young adults,
> or
> >>>>> demonstrated potential for establishing such a record;
> >>>>> € Experience in educational settings and/or curriculum development.
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Lynda Stone, Ph.D.
> >>>>> Professor
> >>>>> Child Development
> >>>>> CSUS/UC-Links After-school Program Director
> >>>>>
> >>>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>
> >>
>
>