[Xmca-l] Re: job-CSU Sacramento

[Kris Gutierrez]

Apropos your comment Mike,  Fred Erickson and I wrote a relevant piece entitled “Culture and Rigor” (Ed Researcher, 2002) that aligns with your point. 

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> On Oct 18, 2017, at 8:22 AM, mike cole <mcole@ucsd.edu> wrote:
> 
> Hi Julian & Huw-
> 
> This seems just right to me:
> 
> Every quantitative analysis/result demands a qualitative
> framework/interpretation; and almost all, or anyway more than we think
> qualitative research opens the possibility of quantitative models.
> 
> And its interesting to think of quality as a "measure" of systems
> properties. Sounds positively quantitative!
> 
> mike
> 
> 
> 
> On Wed, Oct 18, 2017 at 12:59 AM, Julian Williams <
> julian.williams@manchester.ac.uk> wrote:
> 
>> Lynda
>> 
>> Just to say for the list that I appreciate your need for qualitative
>> expertise, especially in a culture where perhaps 'quantitative researchers'
>> dominate (here its the opposite: we have a struggle to keep some
>> quantitative courses on our training programmes).
>> 
>> Innumerate/illiterate may sound unkind and if so I apologise: no offence
>> meant.
>> 
>> I still sigh at the term 'qualitative researcher' and even more
>> 'quantitative researcher', which seems often to imply a specialism and even
>> a closing of doors to new work. Every quantitative analysis/result demands
>> a qualitative framework/interpretation; and almost all, or anyway more than
>> we think qualitative research opens the possibility of quantitative models.
>> If a research identity is bound up with the division we close doors.
>> 
>> Julian
>> 
>> ________________________________________
>> From: xmca-l-bounces@mailman.ucsd.edu [xmca-l-bounces@mailman.ucsd.edu]
>> on behalf of Kris Gutierrez [gutierkd@gmail.com]
>> Sent: 18 October 2017 04:53
>> To: eXtended Mind, Culture, Activity
>> Subject: [Xmca-l] Re: job-CSU Sacramento
>> 
>> Well said, Lynda!
>> 
>> Kris D. Gutiérrez
>> Carol Liu Professor
>> Graduate School of Education
>> Prolepsis Design Collaborative
>> University of California, Berkeley
>> 5629 Tolman Hall
>> Berkeley, CA 94720-1670
>> gutierrkd@berkeley.edu
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>> On Oct 17, 2017, at 8:30 PM, Stone, Lynda <lstone@skymail.csus.edu>
>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi again Julian‹just saw this response.
>>> 
>>> There was a reason for the qualitative emphasis and it had more to do
>> with
>>> competencies with
>>> qualitative rather than lack of quantitative methodological knowledge‹I
>> am
>>> assuming folks would have both.
>>> However, I have discovered that those who attain there PhD¹s here in
>>> traditional human development programs (at least those who
>>> apply for our positions) often have only a superficial knowledge of
>>> qualitative research and no experience with it, as this is the case
>>> with many of our faculty who are well trained to do laboratory research‹-
>>> The best approach, of course, is to generate an interesting research
>>> question and then utilize whatever methods are appropriate for this
>>> question. So the emphasis in the job call was to meet programmatic needs.
>>> I hope this helps you understand why ³qualitative² was placed in the
>>> requirement‹ My guess is that degrees in human development in your
>>> setting might offer course work and practical experience in both methods,
>>> as did my training.
>>> 
>>> Sincerely,
>>> -lynda
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Lynda Stone, Ph.D.
>>> Professor
>>> Child Development
>>> CSUS/UC-Links After-school Program Director
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On 10/17/17, 2:35 PM, "xmca-l-bounces@mailman.ucsd.edu on behalf of
>> Julian
>>> Williams" <xmca-l-bounces@mailman.ucsd.edu on behalf of
>>> julian.williams@manchester.ac.uk> wrote:
>>> 
>>>> Lynda
>>>> 
>>>> Always depressed to see researchers described as 'qualitative'
>> presumably
>>>> as opposed to 'quantitative' and therefore presumed to be innumerate,
>>>> instead perhaps of being illiterate.
>>>> 
>>>> Sigh.
>>>> 
>>>> Julian
>>>> 
>>>>> On 17 Oct 2017, at 21:06, Stone, Lynda <lstone@skymail.csus.edu>
>> wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> Hello All!
>>>>> 
>>>>> Here is a description of job opening for a qualitative researcher
>>>>> grounded in human development and interested in educational settings‹
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> Responsibilities include:
>>>>> € Teaching undergraduate and graduate courses in Child/Human
>>>>> Development, specifically courses related to qualitative research
>>>>> methodology and areas of interest;
>>>>> € Maintaining a rigorous program of research related to school- and/or
>>>>> community-based qualitative research;
>>>>> € Supervising and sponsoring student scholarship; assisting with
>>>>> advising and curriculum development/assessment;
>>>>> € Working collegially with other faculty; and
>>>>> € Contributing to service in the department, college, university, and
>>>>> profession.
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> Required Qualifications
>>>>> 
>>>>> € An earned Ph.D. in Child/Human Development, Applied Developmental
>>>>> Psychology, Developmental Psychology, Developmental Science, Education,
>>>>> and
>>>>> Psychology, or an equivalent program. ABD candidates will be
>>>>> considered. If ABD, all degree requirements must be completed by August
>>>>> 2018
>>>>> € Specialization in qualitative research methods with a strong emphasis
>>>>> in developmental theory.
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> Preferred Qualifications
>>>>> 
>>>>> € Demonstrated leadership potential;
>>>>> € Interpersonal skills;
>>>>> € Ability to work with children, students, families, and communities
>>>>> representing diverse populations from diverse backgrounds;
>>>>> € Demonstrated experience and effectiveness in college level,
>>>>> undergraduate, and/or graduate level teaching;
>>>>> € Clearly defined interdisciplinary program of qualitative research and
>>>>> publication focusing on children, adolescents, and/or young adults, or
>>>>> demonstrated potential for establishing such a record;
>>>>> € Experience in educational settings and/or curriculum development.
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> Lynda Stone, Ph.D.
>>>>> Professor
>>>>> Child Development
>>>>> CSUS/UC-Links After-school Program Director
>>>>> 
>>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>> 
>>